Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
Hello Asgardians! Please post your thoughts, feedback and suggestions on the Table of Contents of the Constitution that was posted in Decree N5 on March 30 2017. You can find the Table of Contents of the Constitution HERE Please keep your discussions civil and respectful of other Asgardians opinions and thoughts. Kind regards, Rebekah Berg, Lead Community Administrator, Asgardia
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
I like all Decrees so far and Asgardia in global as we all thinking about equally for all mankind :) As I am working for last almost 10 years on the cruise ships where it is sometimes more than 65 different nationalities on the same ship and we all work ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
These laws and decisions, which are very popular in Asgardia citizens, will cause us to work more often and to grow together as free and beautiful life and technology. I support Igor Ashureyi President Cumbr and I am by my side.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
Yeah intrested in what the sections about goverment are going to say. Sort of the ones I've been asking most about
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
So far so good 😊 Keep up the good work. I look forward to seeing our nation grow and I am very excited about the future of Asgardia.
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
There are a few things missing. Under chapter 3 Property, I notice a lack of intellectual property being noted. That is not really under 'property' except as an additional adjective. Also, Property itself is not really defining like the rest of titles in the document. Under Chapter 4, Democracy and ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
I see no issue, I'm glad you guys definelty are thinking of our security. :) keep it up.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
Article 11. Human Resources Needs to be Article 11. Intelligence Human Resources is newspeak and looked upon by many with a negative light. Read the words, Humans as a Resource, it's the manipulation of people and should not be a fixed long term element of any government constitution. Human Resource ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:29 UTC
I am glad to see our team efforts paid off! Looks good!
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
More and more excited before these advances.
Now nothing remains but to wait for the full text of the ratification.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
The first thing I noticed is that the document is going to be quite long. I hope it's not too complicated for the everyday person to feel at ease understanding it. A table of content it nice to see, but I can't really comment until I know what exactly is ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
It is nice to see that our constitution is progressively completed and whether there will be a different language version?
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Outstanding Constitution Table of Contents.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
It seems pretty good! I liked it! Regards, Leonardo.
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Hi By what I can see in this table of contents is that they is going to be a lot of interesting things in the constitution. I look forward to reading the entire constitution. Keep up the good work! Regards Fpitts
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
very glad to see the table.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Thank you for including almost everything that Asgardia represents in the table of contents. Only after the review of the Constitution, we will be able to make a final acceptance. So far so good. Again thank you.Also , the members of the drafting committee must be transparent. All the citizens ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
i liked from the table of contents haha
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Looks good, covers all the essentials! I am particularly interested in the contents of the security section!
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
It's a table of contents. The formatting is fine. It seems like what is usually the main body of a constitution does not take up much room, but since it's just a table of contents those sections may well be the appropriate lengths. I have no way to know. Not ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
i liked from the table of contents
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
The table of contents looks good so far. I know that there is going to be a lot of content into each one of them and I am very much eager to read it. I'm just hoping that the labguage used will not be too complicated to common people of ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
The content of the table of contents is good. It makes clear the areas that will be discussed. However, as a space nation, please can I ask why the use of Roman Numerals. Surely in this day and future age, we can have documents with standard numbering ? Not all ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
i DON´T KNOW WHATS GOING ON, BUT EVERY COUNTRY THAT I HAVE SEEN (ASGARDIAN PEOPLE), ITS LIKE 75 % MALE 25 % FEMALE, SOMETIMES EVEN 100 % MALE. 0 % FEMALE. SO HOW WILL WE PROSPER IF WE ARE LACK OF WOMEN? PLEASE USE YOUR INVITATION YT WOMEN INSTEAD YOUR ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Dude, caps lock is on. OUT
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I am not sure this preview of a Table of Contents was Official Decree-worthy. I would hope that Official Decrees are reserved for . . . really important enactments of state. Otherwise it could become an endless procession of petty announcements. There is nothing to comment on in that everyone ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I like what I see in the constitution, I'm looking forward to see what's going to be in article 26, and also in article 9. I also think that we need to have a posture related to religion in our constitution, something like Asgardia doesn't have an oficial religion but ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
It seems it cover all essentials, I wonder if there is anything missing... I am really eager to read it! :)
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Keep up the good work!
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
The table of contents does look promising. It does look comprehensive and gives an idea that the constitution is going to be a lengthy one. It is what will be in each of the sections provided that will make the real difference. As of now, it is easy to wonder, ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
OK, Let's see. Article 1. Asgardia Article 2. https://quizlet.com/7412627/key-terms-the-constitution-flash-cards/ Article 3. Tribe; Currently not yet. Article 4. For the purpose of any and all trademarks. Article 5. If complicated then it is wrong. Article 6. Us. Article 7. We are all aliens in our own land. Article.8 Something better than ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I just wonder a little on something, if by the Declaration we are assuring politics is not part of our way of living in Asgardia; then how to explain the Parlament and some other of the government structures? That seems to me to be politics, isn't it?
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
i'm so happy:) everything is in good conditions. no issues and we are getting stronger as a Asgardians(:
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
that's great ! I can't wait the nation born!
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Seems good so far, I can't really criticize anything until the full costitution is provided
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
To All Asgardians Brothers & The Founding Father Igor Ashulbeily Hello I think that as constitution it should start by defining the type of government/state with will be founded since depending on this topic it will define the way to walk throught. I think that as we all are people ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I think that would be very sensible, edenlop. This a historic moment and a make it or break it one for Asgardia. We should do it right.
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Very nice Preamble,But i have some points to add:- Chapter IV. Democracy and Social Justice there should be 1:-Article on FRATERNITY: This refers to a feeling of brotherhood & a sense of belonging with the country among its people. It embraces psychological as well as territorial dimensions of National Integration. ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
For now seems pretty good! Let's see when the articles are developed
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Dear Asgardians, As a framework for our constitution, table of contents seems comprehensive and efficient to start with. I believe in common responsibilities rather than obligations, obligation is a very strong word which should be reciprocated by both parties in the same manner. Citizens and the state should have responsibilities ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
The contents seems pretty good, although I notice a lack of computational resources (in referance to artificial intelligence, asgardian informational servers, etc...) and the rights of machine citizens. Yes, I am aware that machine based citizens are some time away, I am merely inquiring as to the nature of such ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Hello to all, As noted previously by other asgardians, it is difficult to get a real idea of the quality of the future constitution on the table of contents alone. However, I believe the place of science in our gouvernment should be put forward in this table. I would love ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I agree with @LeonGower here. Considering that we expect this document to *live* for a long time, we should consider that not all **Citizens** will be *Human*. At some point, we may recognize other sentient beings. I don't advocate to recognize computers or AIs... But the question is why do ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Regarding Article 23: *Protection of Earth* Must this be defined in the Constitution?? We already have Article 22: *National Security*... We can be an ally of Earth nations or even the whole planet if all could agree. But, I really don't see the necessity of writing this into the Constitution. ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Regarding Article 32: *Parliament* I don't recall an agreed discussion on the form and type of government we are to establish. Clearly Article 16: *[Democracy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy/ "en.wikipedia.org")* suggest it will be a democratic government of some type. Having read and seeing other types, I find myself in ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Article 9: *Key __Obligations__ of Citizens* Despite not having the contents of this article, I already object to the word **obligations**. This is not only a strong word, but demands all Citizenry follow without fail. It should be defined as *[responsibility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_responsibility/ "en.wikipedia.org")* or maybe *[duty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty/ "en.wikipedia.org")* but not an **[obligation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligation/ ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Add something about the right of free worship. Any religion and / or any cult is welcome. Provided we guarantee the rights of disagreement.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
By: ANTONIO CARLOS SIQUEIRA on [31 March 2017, 1:36 p.m.](https://asgardia.space/en/forum/forum/constitution-132/topic/discussion-for-the-constitution-table-of-contents-4625/?post=21843#21843) >Add something about the right of free worship. Any religion and / or any cult is welcome. Provided we guarantee the rights of disagreement. Hi Antonio, I believe this can be covered under Article 20: *Social Protections*. I don't see ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Guys, why are you trying to divine the constitution from the table of contents? It's not written yet and the speculation is off-topic.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
@sammwich, Most of my post are not attempts at speculating on the Constitutions' contents. (I've already read all the community suggestions and the current 50 page doc...) However, I am expressing my concerns over these articles: [Article 9](https://asgardia.space/en/forum/forum/constitution-132/topic/discussion-for-the-constitution-table-of-contents-4625/?post=21842#21842), [Article 11](https://asgardia.space/en/forum/forum/constitution-132/topic/discussion-for-the-constitution-table-of-contents-4625/?post=21834#21834), [Article 23](https://asgardia.space/en/forum/forum/constitution-132/topic/discussion-for-the-constitution-table-of-contents-4625/?post=21835#21835), and [Article 32](https://asgardia.space/en/forum/forum/constitution-132/topic/discussion-for-the-constitution-table-of-contents-4625/?post=21838#21838).
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Article 9. Key Obligations of Citizens. I'm curious to see what those obligations will be. Article 12 Territory and Article 27 Capital. Does this mean we are going to have a Capital on an Earth-based Territory? Article 19. Labour and Dividends. Sounds like salaries will be dividend payments based on ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
So Far. So good.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
table of contents look good, however, i am more interested in the contents of the table of contents:)
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
What do mean by citizen security? All I keep hearing from people is that we should have any defend leaving us open. I litteraly think Co2 compressed weapons that shoots rubber laced silicon or a type of sleeping dart. Let us carry even melee weapons. Tasers, batons, and etc. Will ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
@OshoNikhil >Very nice Preamble,But i have some points to add:- Chapter IV. Democracy and Social Justice there should be 1:-Article on FRATERNITY: This refers to a feeling of brotherhood & a sense of belonging with the country among its people. It embraces psychological as well as territorial dimensions of National ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I think the most important is the constitutional process and the laws, I am sure you are very good at it, but in every country it should be established in the centers for the community of asgardia
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Will we be aloud to carry a non lethal weapons? I'm willing to put this up for a debate of use. So can we?
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
I think this is the right way. But I miss something. In the birth of Asgardia and to this moment and probably for to Constitution Day, we don't have a delegate for the regions in the Globe. I hope it is inside of Constitution. Because we don't have a direct ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Hello fellow Asgardians As a none legal knowledgeable person, I don't see any problem with what I read in regards to the contents of the table of contents for the constitution. More interested in reading the content than just headings, might be that the table of contents changes as the ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Hello fellow Asgardians As a none legal knowledgeable person, I don't see any problem with what I read in regards to the contents of the table of contents for the constitution. More interested in reading the content than just headings, might be that the table of contents changes as the ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
il faudrait mandater une équipe afin de rédiger les textes pour chaques chapitres de la constitution et soumettre aux votes des Asgardiens pour d'éventuelles modifications
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
god please Asgardia and the Asgardians and our leader , this nation will be a strong nation and we all will be proud of it , even our children
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
How will the powers be divided?
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
God and Goddess bless Asgardia, a continuation of our Earth.
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Fellow Asgardians, I took the liberty to prepare a draft Constitution with nearly all the contain that may fit to the Table of Contents. All open to your feedback and debate, of course. Chapter I. General Provisions Article 1. Name The space nation is named Asgardia. Article 2. Key Constitutional ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Chapter IV. Democracy and Social Justice Article 16. Democracy i) Asgardia shall have a republican form of government (of the people, for the people and by the people), with a direct democratic political system with universal suffrage. ii) Political parties will not be recognized by law. Article 17. Justice i) ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Chapter VII. Administration of Government Article 31. Head of State and the Office of the Head of State i) The Head of State will be the Consul*. ii) It will be elected for a term of four (4) years, ruling a maximum of two consecutive terms. *President or whatever name ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Article 36. Decision-Making and Implementation I. Government: i) The Head of State shall chair the Government. He shall see to the affairs directly entrusted to him, shall sign the laws and any decrees or ordinances issued by the Government and the Parliament, and shall be the main representative of the ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Asgardian Constitution notes: __Citizenship__: should we mention if citizenship can be acquired by birth? If one of your parents is Asgardian, do you automatically are one? Or do you have to ask for it to be granted? __Article 8.__ Civil rights? What is this? Do we have a definition? And ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Also, can we please add Constitutional protection to whistleblowers, please? I don't know how the wording should be, but any person with inside knowledge who risks his or her life when warning the public of government action designed to harm the people should be protected for risking themselves in order ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
My initial thoughts are similar to @yovy - that many articles is bound to make the constitution mind numbingly long.
There are a number of articles which I think are better left to legislative documents rather than enshrining them in something which covers the broad concepts and rules of ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Really Good
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
@yovy - whistleblowers The government of the USA has recently made that term synonymous with tainted traitors. You are correct that people who bring public attention on the wrong doings of those who have been entrusted with the responsibility of serving society should be protected and vindicated rather than vilified. ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Very good so far, but I think the way the food looks is not soo much importance than the ingredients and what the food is made up of. I will love to read the content of each articles and especially chapter IV, VII AND VIII. But will say again very ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

hi i haven't read anything about humman rights and international laws acceptance (i am not a lawyer so i don't know if it is a correct notice)

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hello,

Great work by guzlomi as I expected!

Here are my initial thoughts. Please bear in mind I know nothing in legalese and I am also very new to these kinds of topics in general. Some of these may intersect with what ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@Yovy

Thank you for your feedback! Please bear in mind that I follow the Table of Contents, I would also erase or made from zero some parts of it! But I wanted to cover all fields of this Table of Contents with ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Article 12. “Colonized by Asgardians” shouldn’t this be "Asgardia." Since this implies that the government will have automatic ownership on any territorial discovery or colonization a citizen makes

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Article 17. iv) Criminal law will not have retroactive effects if they are not favorable. How do we define favorable? what exactly is it we have in mind when we say this. <”favorable” ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Article 32. i) Parliament shall consist of all registered Asgardian citizens with at least 18 years old and not deprived by Courts of their voting rights. They will be called Members of the Parliament.
I ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I'm very proud, we are having great advances!

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@zouzou

Thank you for your kind words and feedback. I will answer you between brackets <>

I am missing provisions about transparency; force the government to display everything it does so anyone can judge.

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@zouzou

8-iv) Asgardian citizens have the right to protect their space nation against all inner & external enemies.

Shouldn't citizens delegate that to the government? Does this mean anyone can shoot anyone when they think the person is ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Nice!

I´m very interested in the chapters II, IV, VII and VIII.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@bigred

I see your point and I agree with most of it. But as I said, it's not my "ideal" constitutional structure, I'm only following the proposed one. I don't think that the "constitutional commitee" is open to radically change this structure at this point. I even ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

extremely well thought out and arranged.... this is an outstanding start

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I can see that the subject is well developed, with excellent contributions from our compatriots (Asgardians). I'm not a lawyer, I'm not working in the field of law or government. But I think that Dr. Igor already has enough material to propose the constitution and send to vote, article ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ guzlomi Thank you so much for your detail response. I want to go back and clarify some of my points, but that is going to be lengthy so before I sit down with my laptop and coffee mug to dissect everything, I wanted to say ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ guzlomi I second that!

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I believe you missing two vital parts and the Index Content; Artificial Intelligent Development and Extraterrestrial Encounters in Development.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@Yovy No problem with your passionated post. I didn't feel confronted, it was just an interesting debate of ideas and different point of views. Feel free to comment anything, please.

I also posted the draft to be critized and ammended. As long as we don't have a ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Emergency Management - requires to bring an orderly and systemic means of natural and man-made disaster assistance in carrying out government's responsibilities to aid Asgardian citizens.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

From what I am seeing the constitution will be created by decree, just like everything until now. I prefer that a constitutional collegiate be formed for the sole purpose of creating the constitution. There are hundreds of interested Asgardians representing a good part of the citizens of Asgardia. Let ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

When citizen security is up discuss what citizens may have and carry. Weapons, non lethal but letting our citizens go without even a little defense? For something like a non lethal gun I'd recommend a strict test which means not many would have non lethal guns but to ensure ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

It is a bit hard to comment on a table of contents. I'm sure the table of contents of the Bible looks harmless enough. The devil will literally be in the detail.

Many members have put in a lot of time and effort in filling in the ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

It is wonderful to see our Constitution begin to take shape. I can't comment on a table of contents, I look forward to the document it's self. That is when the real scrutiny will start. Look sharp Asgardians, this is 100% of our score. The document can be translated ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Haha beautiful a new editor - that tricked me :-D

Had to go through and remove all my HTML. Dumb twit I am, I should have checked the page before writing in my own editor :-D


OK - sorry I took so ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Article 5

I feel this article is not necessary in the constitution for 2 reasons:

i) The items are covered in the "Declaration of Unity" which must be accepted before a potential citizen becomes a full citizen.

ii) A constitution is ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Articles 31-36

Obviously must be defined.

I am loathe to comment on these items here because everyone has a different opinion and I think by "everyone" I also mean the founders of Asgardia. I will suggest some options in a later post. But ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

What is important is to guarantee equality, whether it be a president or a worker, we must guarantee the same rights and duties for all.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I agree thear everyone has a important role and are living beings, every one deserves respect.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

+1 bdaonion. I nealy choked on my breakfast when I read his post :).

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@bigred

"What needs to be guarded against is not the protection of the "whistleblower". The guarding should be against the ability of those entrusted with the responsibility of public service to corrupt or usurp the workings of the tools of the constitution. It is to this ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ guzlomi thank you very much for your encouragement.

So now that I can dissect your feedback let me get right into it:

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@Yovy - yes a big difficulty that.

you are correct that it is difficult to legislate (or constitute) against human nature gone over to "the dark side". Personally I think that is a natural problem which will occur whenever people are allowed to make a career out ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hi
Study the provisions of the constitution generally good but the details need to be explained and described.
I am impatiently waiting for the state to put its expertise at the disposal of the nation Asgardia .

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Am so glad that what we accomplish so far and this will make as stronger

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@bigred

OK, that sounds very interesting. I'm going to take a cue from you and I'm going to set up a public address. I'll email you tonight (from my side of the pond) so that you have my new address.

On a side note: it's ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I like' to suggest that DPR the Tribe is built by skill of any asgardians

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I studied the table of contents seriously. There are V111 chapters and 40 articles in our constitution. Amendment will also be possible in future.All points have been covered in our

constitution.Our constitution is also alert about the security of it's citizens.great ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I think ,it is very nice table . There is one thing which i have not understood; in which contents we put the health of the Asgardian citizens ?

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Is Good and great step for our nation!

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I was impressed by all the Asgardia decrees .. I wish more progress towards the wide space ..

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Bonjour à tous,

Ce qui est proposé dans la Constitution Table of Contents est intéressant. Je souhaite juste qu'il y ait un ministère des sciences et de la connaissance . Cela me semble aussi important que la sécurité, voir plus.

Merci à vous,

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Okay, this seems pretty heavy handed. I was hoping that the constitution would be a bit simpler. More of a rock solid foundation of rights, purpose (mission), and government structure (where it gets its authority, how it makes laws and policy, how it executes those laws and policies, and ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Some more food for thought.

I wish I was better studied on this than I am but I will do my best. I have lots of ideas and input on our future government.

Are we a democratic communist republic, Democratic Socialism, capitalist Democratic republic? I ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Good afternoon, Asgardians!

The content is based on the balance and protection of our community and the environment that we will have, we must prioritize in the fundamental principles of each of the citizens, make clear the rights and duties and ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

and for gods sake translate for the maximum possible language the Constitution when its goes out to better understanding/discussion about it (since not everyone have a fluent english,like me )

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
Esta es mi propuesta de algunos de los artículos. Traducido por traductor Googgle Artículo 1. Nombre El nombre es de Nación Asgardia. Artículo 3. Estado La Nación de Asgardia es un sujeto de derecho internacional, ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
This is my proposal for some of the articles. Translated by googgle translator  Article 1. Name The name is Nation of Asgardia. Article 3. Status The Nation of Asgardia is a Subject of International Law, sovereign and ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@bigred

"i) The constitution is a document for citizens to read, understand and accept. The document should be written with terminology that people would understand and be able to apply to everyday life. A constitution is not a liturgy of "legalese", it should be a clear ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ ABSpears

"Many people, mostly the Submitted States, look to the countries constitution for guidance and that's a good place to start but another possibly overlooked document is States constitutions. States have to assume governance independent of any other oversight. In the united ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ rincoadeje if we have no territory, how do you define districs?

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@yovy - yes i agree. My 3 main concerns are:

1) What you highlighted in your previous post to me

2) correct translations - including legal, grammar, phrasing. Also whatever language a document is written in make sure it is edited and proofed by people ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ABspears - i like the way you have shortened it down even further than any of us have thought too previously.

As @Yovy has stated previously there are a lot of areas that can be covered with broad conceptual statements as long as the legality is intact. ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ rincoadeje - I'm not sure a discussion of parliamentary structure is relevant without knowing the physical structure of Asgardia.

As @Yovy pointed out "what districts"?. Which people are they representing? Why 50-70 when, in general, the number of seats would be some algorithm ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Wow. Writing all that on my phone was hard enough. All those typos.

Anyway

@Yovy

" ...considering that 160 countries around the world have modeled their own constitution... I'll say it is a great starting point." ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ AdamSpears

I prefer a clear and concise constitution over one that has a lot of words.

Why do I feel that it is going to be very hard to advocate for simplicity...? I would like that very much, too. ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@bigred

The regional Parliament of the Canary Islands, in its constitution, has this figure. The population of the Canary Islands is 2 millioncountrie s y population similar to Asgardia, countries like Saint Lucia have a very reduced parliament, of 17

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ rincoadeje - thanks for the explanation. How would you choose the representation? Bearing in mind that this representation is currently (and for a very long time in the future) applying to people who are not linked by territory or property.

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ Yovy

"Why do I feel that it is going to be very hard to advocate for simplicity...?"

Yes, it will be "very hard" but I hope nobody constructing a Constitution thinks it will be an easy task. ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I've been absent from this thread for some time as I've focused on the Declaration of Unity . However, I must voice my concern over Chapter Five, Article 23 - Protection of Earth.

I understand Dr. Igor Ashurbeyli has expressed that Asgardia could protect the ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ skieswanne ,

"Outside of the Constitution? I'm not too sure. Yes, treaties will be the main structure. However, the power of, say, a military, must be limited to avoid infringement upon citizens rights; and to limit the power of the military, ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@LoreZyra

Well I can understand the motivation behind Article 23.

A month ago I was working on compiling the people's suggestions for the Constitution. Alot of the people have suggested to include Asgardia's ability to protect Earth from space threats such as asteroids. If Article ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ skieswanne ,

I recall reading all 50 pages of those suggestions and left my commentary on them. Unfortunately, it seems I was too late to the party to have any of my thoughts added.

" Article ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

You make a valid point here.

I guess it all depends on how the other nations will perceive Asgardia. Will they see Asgardia as a threat, or actually recognise Asgardia's usefulness? Seems to me like Article 23 could be a way to ensure that the ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ skieswanne ,

" The abilities of Asgardia might be obvious to you and me, but some more, um, h ot-headed nations might not view Asgardia with as much rationality. Article 23 might be paramount (to war) ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hehe :P

This is trule only if the proposed protection of Earth involves a military. Article 23 might very well be only about scientists studying asteroid orbit charts.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ KillaKat (Asgardian) on 31 March 2017, 4:46 p.m.

" I'm planning to start Asgardian based businesses and would like to know what to expect in terms of taxes and laws regarding holding companies and trust funds. "

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ skieswanne ,

" Article 23 might very well be only about scientists studying asteroid orbit charts. "

Somehow, I doubt it... Besides, we already have Scientist doing this already based on Earth. Many of them from the USA. ...

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

"Just curious. What type of businesses are you planning?"

I hope it's not tribbles.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

"I hope it's not tribbles. "

LOL. Cute, little furry bastards, eh?

Wonder if they would make a good source of protein?

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Lol :P

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ guzlomi (Asgardian) on 1 April 2017, 1:37 p.m.

Article 32. i) Parliament shall consist of all registered Asgardian citizens with at least 18 years old and not deprived by Courts of their voting rights. They will be called Members of ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

By: guzlomi (Asgardian) on 1 April 2017, 1:37 p.m.

The Ministers must be citizens of Asgardia and eligible for election according to law. Aren't ministers appointed? ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

By: guzlomi (Asgardian) on 1 April 2017, 1:37 p.m.

" Who wants an Asgardian Wikileaks? "

I just might run that operation... ;)

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

By: Boonejohn97 (Asgardian) on 2 April 2017, 5:17 a.m.

When citizen security is up discuss what citizens may have and carry.

You will be in space... For what purpose would you truly need a gun? If you must physically ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hi Everyone,

One point I wish to stress loudly : The Constitution should be focused on the limits of Government as opposed to the rights of citizens ! The constitution need not define every detail nor every grievance of ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@AdamSpears


I think a fair solution would be by number of citizens one representative should have. But then how to you dive up those citizens fairly? Maybe its just a draft thing where you are assigned with a group of people like in ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Okay so my initial post was in response to the Constitution table of contents. In Reading deeper I find that there seems to be an actual Constitution floating around here somewhere in Google Docs or something?

  • Adam Spears
  • Citizen
  • Asgardia
Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@AdamSpears
I think a fair solution would be by number of citizens one representative should have. But then how to you dive up those citizens fairly? Maybe its just a draft thing where you are assigned with a group of people like in the military. Please ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

^OK, so you are suggesting that people form organic groups naturally, rather than actually assigning them? I think I agree very much with this idea. Give the people self-determination.

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@Yovy
That's exactly what I meant: why anyone, apart me, should be free to " assign me " to some group or party? This is specifically against my freedom of thought and of actions , if we're not having an overall ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@AdamSpears

"In Reading deeper I find that there seems to be an actual Constitution floating around here somewhere in Google Docs or something?"

Yup. Here's a direct link to the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V0281V4LIhoRSQsZLJyS-ltMlBK3GefEMIlDxoJzCJE/edit?usp=sharing

Not a complete Constitution, more ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ AdamSpears (Asgardian) on 6 April 2017, 2:30 p.m.

I think I'm starting to agree with you, LoreZyra. Indeed we do not want Asgardia to devolve into a military state. But if we are going to keep "protection of Earth" as ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I think their may need to be a separate discussion and document for the "Bill of Rights".

I was thinking about representation. Here is my first option. It is a simple idea and I think it will work well especially for the ratification of our first ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

"pursuant to the rules ratified by this constitution."


If we would like to get the ball rolling, all position of Ministry(s) could be voted in to ratify the final constitution. I understand this is currently a voluntary community of ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ AdamSpears on 7 April 2017, 8:41 a.m.

Why have the terms set at four years? Why not five Earth years?

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Because there are 12 Ministers. The idea was to never have an election that would replace all ministers at once. I didn't articulate this but it should be noted.

Twelve Heads of Ministry and only six (6) Heads of Ministry one half (1/2) of the total and ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ AdamSpears ,

Okay. Seems like we are borrowing heavily from the American system. It seems to me, that in the last two generations of Presidents, any President that spent more than one term in office really had the chance to see their ideals ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Gostei também do conteúdo inicial dá constituição, mas espero que ele não seje aberto a múltiplas interpretações, pois isso sempre dá problemas posteriormente, sem falar que até no paraíso entra serpentes, e devemos estar preparados para tudo e todos. 😉

"I also liked the initial content ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Mr. Leoz says the truth ... I ask everyone not to enter into details , because it is this talk premature .

my greetings to all

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I see very job ahead.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I see Consitution Table of Content .I want to talk abot something beacuse i think it's a obligation to do though i am amateur in politics. The most important part in reality is Chapter VII. Administration of Government and Article 36. Decision-Making and Implementation. Two consul may come from ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ Aristophyn blcus

I agree with your assessment especially that the table of contents and a lot of our posts are based on current world situations. Although this is inevitable and not a wrong thing to do there is a big problem with a ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Good points! Hope we can discuss each and every one of them soon

I guess that we can include a set of financial articles inside the constitution

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I agree with the constitution and the points made in it. I'm looking forward to the day all is decided!

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Good morning to all Asgardians ... My opinion on the Table of Contents ... is that it is just what was said: a table of contents ... and we are asked to say what we think about it.

A long time ago, I was a law student ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

"Article 11. Human Resources Needs to be Article 11. Intelligence"

What's means "human resources?" It's about money and production or about management?
I'm sorry my ignorance, but i'am trying to understand it.
Thank you!

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

It seems that the constitution table of contents and most of our suggestions are very much in the line of current political thought and systems. Why not take the best out of all the various styles of govt (political systems) and not worry about branding (eg. democracy, communism, socialism ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

By: bigred (Asgardian) on 12 April 2017, 4:39 a.m.

Why not have the position chosen at random from a pool of eligible citizens to serve for a specific period of time and removal from the position is simply because a new person ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ LoreZyra

You are right,

"US Congress is especially guilty of running what amounts to "pan handling in a suit""

I would love a discussion on this. Personally I think a Nation monitored electoral fund should ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@LoreZyra - my point is to find the best parts of all the variations of political systems. Perhaps we can find the best fit without resorting to branding or feeling the need to describe an idea as undesirable simply because it is identified as being a part of a ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@AdamSpears - have you thought about the possibility of not having popular votes and therefore not having to allocate national funding to such pointless items as campaigning for a position in the "ruling government" (which usually equates to a position in which people feel they deserve more recognition, power ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC
  • @bigred
  • I love your enthusiasm to push for more "out of the box" thinking. I agree, we need to consider any and all viable options, methods, and procedures for formulating, operating, and governing a nation of people.
  • Firstly,
  • "have ...
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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@AdamSpears - I understand your thoughts, the expansion and discussion of which probably shouldn't clutter this forum. However there is an interesting question which arises out of the thought I put forward in my previous post in answer to LoreZyra and a line you put in your reply to ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC


I also agree with the Constitution and the points contained therein. I look forward to the implementation of these resolutions.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I believe it says all that can be said at this time. Until we implement and navigate the reality of what the constitution will say. I don't believe we will fully grasp all the needs of a space nation. As we will be developing a space station to which ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I believe it says all that can be said at this time. Until we implement and navigate the reality of what the constitution will say. I don't believe we will fully grasp all the needs of a space nation. As we will be developing a space station to which ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hello, @LoreZyra @bigred @AdamSpears @Aristophyn blcus

Time is running out, and I think we have made a lot of useful suggestions.

Maybe the main problem has been the lack of feedback so we didn't know what to expect: direct or representive democracy? Technocracy? Oligocracy? Plutocracy ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

To all those who have posted their suggestions:

I have finished compiling all of your suggestions regarding the Chapters and the Articles of the Table of Content.

Suggestions for Constitution rules are considered off-topic and thus have not been included in ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

By: bigred (Asgardian) on 12 April 2017, 5:26 a.m.

There are systems of choosing eligible people for positions of service to the people of the nation being utilised successfully in our current societies. The USA jury duty system ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

By: guzlomi (Asgardian) on 13 April 2017, 9:51 a.m.

problem has been the lack of feedback so we didn't know what to expect: direct or representive democracy? Technocracy? Oligocracy? Plutocracy (only richs will have money to pay the ticket to ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Am excited to find out what laws we will have that support Humanity, growth, protection. I am very excited all together and am happy to be on The Asgardia team!

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@LoreZyra - hmmmmmmm.... "randomly selected" would tend to rule out technocracy or meritocracy even further as that would be in opposition to the very base tenet of those particular demarcations. However that's not what we are here to do and it's not really important so let's forget we started ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@BigRed,

I'm in agreement with you and I suspect we share the same thought process in our approach to this adventure.

I am quick to consider the devil's advocate (of sorts) when it comes to proposal of rules and law. So, it's not that I ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I like it, it seems very complete

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

English: I'm agree with the Constitution Table of Contents and Declaration of Unity, but the point 9 and 12 are confused. About point 9, Asgardia must be a democracy, so how people will participate in Asgardia's government? In relation to point 12: the Humanity must not forget ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

so far so good.

@96yeyo

Declaration of Unity

about 12,

i think it's more about

not taking prejudices from the past into the new society.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

>> about 12, i think it's more about not taking prejudices from the past into the new society.

"When one doesn't learn from history, one is doomed to repeat it."

BRK

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

The structure of the table for Asgardian Constitution is OK with me. I am eager of reading the content.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I will resolutely uphold the decrees of the leaders and abide by them.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I like the Constitution. What kind of security service do you think in this article Chapter V. Security-Article 24. Security Services and Systems

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I think the Constitution Table of Contents is very well but, I suppose all the contents will protect in general all the individual members no matter how our personal matters will be. I fell a little confused about this matter? Can some one explan this to me? Thanks Lola ...

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ LoreZyra,

I have been away from this thread for a while, but it seems you and I may have come across a common thought about the likely system of government that Asgardia may end up with - Corporatocracy. As I see it, all the signs are ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@Scarbs

I was thinking the same thing. I don't see it working any other way, which could lead us down a very dangerous road if not handled the right way. Especially if we are using a currency in Asgardia that won't be worth anything elsewhere. Reminiscent of ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ Scarbs ,

"a citizenry that voluntarily signs up to an agreement to provide labour and/or skills to the state in return for housing, food, healthcare, education and security. It has the potential to draw from the best of ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@JasonRainbow

If you are alluding to a slavery type arrangement, what I am envisioning is distinctly different.

In a corprotocracy, it is the choice of an individual to sign up as a "citizen employee" of the corporate state for a set term. The individual can ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I like it all the Contents in our Constitution. And I hope that our country comes to defender this planet and the humanity and all animals.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Все указы Asgardia полезны и разумны. Все они содержат стратегической задачи формирования единого виртуального конверт гражданского имущества. И это очень важно для всеобщего мира человечества.

All decrees Asgardia useful and reasonable. They all contain the strategic task of forming a virtual envelope of civilian property. And it ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Me parece muito bom :)

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hello @Willian Nascimento @Vion

Just a reminder that English is the accepted language in all non-regional forums. If English is not your first language it is recommended to use Google Translate or Bing Translator so that you can post ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Dear all. I think it is best to use a system of self-representation supported by technology and to avoid possible technological fraud, the voting system should be non-anonymous, that is, public .

The government must be technocratic, based on parameters set by ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

HOLA que tal Asgardianos, que tengan buen dia en el planeta tierra.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

bencarsal

I agree with the above comment, same opinions

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Well seems interesting, though some things missing or overgeneralized, maybe some table contents names could be different too, but will have to wait for proper content to comment more precisely on this matter.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I have a a big question here.

Please forgive me if it has been answered elsewhere in this forum.

Specifically, I have a big question about the Unity Statement, particularly in point 9, which puts forward the idea of no political parties. This is because ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

The constitution table of contents seems fine to me for the moment, but I just wonder how ministers, ambassadors, etc. will be appointed, and I also wonder if there will be any kind of safeguards to protect Asgardians from any form of dictatorship.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

The table of contents looks fine to me, yet I wonder if there will be anything as regards the appointment of ministers, diplomats, etc. and also a provision to avoid any kind of possible excess of power...

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

God Bless Asgardia! :D

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

writeboywrite

Parliamentary systems exist on the manicipal level in Canada as well without political parties there is no contradiction there. It merely means that the representatives will vote their conscience on the individual issues and the votes will be tallied.

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

The Declaration of Unity and the Constitution table of contents have a bit of a conflict.

9. Asgardia does not engage in politics, there is no place for political parties in Asgardia. But every Asgardian can freely participate in political life on Earth.

The table ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC


I'm not fluent in English but , charter Initially very successful

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

Hi there, the constitution table of contents is awesome, but i wish to state some minor questions: as a space nation, and by the fact the space is almost infinite, we, the tip of the iceberg called humanity, how will handle the deep space exploration?, are we considering something ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

the proposal under article 26. As a new nation , and the language needs to be new. Therefore I propose as the national language to adopt Esperanto as already developed but a new language.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

What about science and innovation? How come these do not get their own chapters? Shouldn't there be a basis for a scientific strategy and methodology built in right into the constitution of Asgardia?

In Article 36, we can change "Decision-Making and Implementation" to "Decision-Making and Reimplementation" - ...

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Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

@ RebekahBerg ,

Can we close this thread as it should not be used for further discussion on a topic already closed?

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

The draft constitution appears fine to me.

Jun 24, 01 / Jun 13, 17 09:30 UTC

I suggest that we lower the age in which someone can be elected an official as well as put term limits on any elected position.