May 29, 17 / Can 09, 01 00:16 UTC
Re: Discussion of the draft Constitution part two. ¶
"2:5.1 At the time of its foundation, Asgardia’s territory is the digitised noosphere, a
digital state with living citizens on Earth, which exists on a near-Earth orbit
in the form of a single satellite or an orbital satellite constellation." Do not use a presentence or past grammar on this, well don't even have it here, have it in the history of Asgardia section in the historybooks. When it comes to sending up satellites, what are we going to use those for? Secure communication between Asgardians with free internet access? Or is it going to take pictures from low earth so that we know where earth is?
Scrap the whole article 2:5.1 & 2 & 3 as it is stating what we are going to do, anyone thinking of the ones reading in 100-1000 years from now? Either thinking that the creators where really stupid or they being stupid and using it as a cerimony every year launching satellites into low orbit....
"2:5.7 Asgardia uses adjacent territories (hard surfaces, subsurface resources,
oceans, atmospheres, space, celestial bodies) in accordance with generally
recognised international principles and norms, as well as international
treaties to which it is a party" Good so what is the international standards? What happens when they are lost?
"3:1 Any resident of Earth over the age of 16 who agrees to Asgardia’s Declaration
of Unity and Constitution and consciously submits his/her digital personal
data to Asgardia’s Space Database may become an Asgardian citizen. " Submits their personal data? And why only earth? Weren't everyone equally valued? Why is everyone thinking one world? DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT THIS STATEMENT COULD LEAD TO WAR IN THE FUTURE?!
"3:2" Once again, what if we get recognized internationally in like 5 years or 10 or 20 then we will have dual citizenship right? Why is this statement in the constitution?
"3:3" So any child born now by a member is hereby an Asgardian by LAW?! Looking at 3:2 looking back at 3:3. Some thinking may have been used here....
"3:4" You are hereby a citizen of Asgardia, welcome to the spaceship that only holds Asgardians, oh, you stole an apple, you are hereby revoked of your citizenship and are not legally occupying the ship, you are sentenced to be dropped of at the nearest non Asgardian location, which is space, bye! *flushed out*
"3:7.1 Asgardian citizens have the right of free movement in Asgardian localities
and the right to choose their location in Earth nations" So once again, earth, also I have some open statements to talk about here, seems like this is meant to be a fixed hole to use in case of fire, when Asgardia is internationally recognized then it will be possible to, well laundry corrupt or stolen money through the state affairs , and flee to whatever country they chose to. For an example.
If we are to give everyone the same rights, why not try to overwrite every other countries laws so that the Asgardians cannot be touched without causing problems with the nations on earth, that way we could probably get more citizens.
"3:8.4 Key Citizen Rights and Freedoms" Who are the KEY citizens? Central rights & freedoms of the Asgardian citizens, sounds fair right?
"3:8.5 If the state infringes on the rights of an Asgardian citizen, he/she has the right
to seek legal protection in court" How is this court set up?
"3:9.5 Asgardian citizens must pay lawfully established taxes and levies." Sure, when does this start and should we like have double taxation upon our countries money as we are not citizens of dual citizenship.. :S Since when did a taxation system work, if there is not going to be a change for this, then at least let every one pay the taxation as a normal bill. And have Direct democracy, and then see what will be done with the money as everyone will start to understand the sums that goes to the government.
"3:9.6 Asgardian citizens have the right and obligations to participate in elections and
referenda. Systematic derogation of this duty may lead to legal consequences
in accordance with the law. " It should only be an obligation to atleast vote blank.
"3:9.10 Failure to perform citizen obligations or failure to perform them properly
may lead to permanent revocation of Asgardian citizenship, suspension of
Asgardian citizenship, fines, restriction and/or permanent revocation of access
to Asgardia’s electronic resources in accordance with the law of Asgardia. The
death penalty is prohibited in Asgardia. The creation of prisons is prohibited
in Asgardia. " So electronic dictatorship in the workings? I understand that everyone is needed to be in the worksquad, but what happens in the case of sickness? Or in a accident, or if there is no work to be done?
"3:10.5 The state guarantees that its aims, plans, development forecasts, as well as
threats and risks to its development, will be publicly disclosed." To what degree? If it is not in development, it is not needed to be disclosed.
"3:10.6 The state must establish Asgardia’s public opinion and take it into account
when making administrative decisions in accordance with the law of Asgardia." So is it going to be a dictator direct democrazyship? You can't save the cookie and eat it at the same time. It should be looked upon once again.
"4:11.2 Asgardia uses its own material, financial and other resources to ensure free
access to distance learning, professional qualifications, scientific and creative
work for Asgardian citizens." Is this going to be based on earth basics or are we going to do like the americans and go imperical.
"4:11.3 Asgardian citizens have a guaranteed right to free time for self-development
and self-improvement, creative and cultural pursuits" So what is self improvement? By cultural is meant that also religion is added right, so I can spend hours meditating? It's up to the interpitation.
"4:11.5 The state supports Asgardian citizens in leading healthy lifestyles." So then you should support VEGANISM as this should be the most healthy lifestyle or are we going to have slaughterhouses in space to?
"4:12.3 Asgardia’s natural resources may be exclusively state property, the property of
state-owned companies, public-private property, private property, personal
property, as well as other property under the law of Asgardia." The water hereby costs 35 credits per centilitres, the state decrees that it is necessary for our survival...
"4:13.1 Asgardia’s sovereign financial resources comprise state and private finance.
Arbitrary seizure of private financial resources is prohibited." Good, but a while ago it was stated that the money could be stopped if you where not producing. How does this not cross paths?
"4:13.2 Asgardia’s currency is the Gor." WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ASGARDIAN CREDITS? AC for short, would it start a new millenium bug?
"4:13.4 Asgardia’s National Bank is responsible for the exchange rate, issue and
circulation of finance, stability of the sovereign currency and bank system
liquidity. Asgardia’s National Bank is regulated by the law of Asgardia." As I wrote earlier, no money for the people, every citizen generate currency so that the nation can exchange products with earth, but everything should be free for the citizens, that releases both the stress of not being able ta have the seaweed or porridge on the table and stops greed and ensures equality to the people. The bank could as easily be an AI in the future, making all the necissary exchanges.
I have still not understood the whole science fiction "ideal parameters to the moon" thing.
"4:13.9 Asgardia’s National Bank facilitates the development of a banking system for
state-owned and private banks, regulates their operations and profitability.
The state guarantees bank secrecy. Bank secrecy may not be restricted by the
law of Asgardia or international " So? It is basically a new theft machine set in motion? People are not in the need to be governed by a bank, when we have a crypto currency there is no need for a bank, thinking of bitcoins....
"4:13.7 Asgardia guarantees the rights of authors, inventors and users of intellectual
property in harmony and balance. " Asgardia should have their own patent system, where it instead of making it banned for anyone to use the ideas it should be open for improvements and implementations for everyone. Greed is not going to help anyone.
Reading the rest, not going to lay my voice to the rest. Much of the rest was good, my biggest concerns are the bank, currency, and the taxation and oldschool system.