Sco 04, 01 / Sep 13, 17 04:17 UTC

Republic of Asgardia  

I more prefer a republic than a kingdom. In the constitution page it says kingdom, i think,better if Asgardia is a republic. (Rip english)

  Last edited by:  Danendraifh (Asgardian)  on Sco 04, 01 / Sep 13, 17 04:23 UTC, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: We can choose our leader (?)

Sco 04, 01 / Sep 13, 17 17:34 UTC

You're not the only one.

Sco 04, 01 / Sep 13, 17 19:48 UTC

the most interesting question would be common law or continental law (civil law), suddenly Igor's strategy is that of joining the commonwhealt league according to what you see having a common law-based legal system would allow for regularization of laws that have not yet even we know in the space of the kingdom of asgardia if it were called republic could per se to have the necessity of adhesion to the civil law, this is an even subject of study to choose the base of our judicial system is decisive we are going to say that to comply with the civil law guarantees you rights but does not prevent you from having autocratic government the common law has had more time to have counterweights against absolutist powers (remember always had to adjust to the whims of kings for 1000 years) and civil law is barely 200 years old experience so there lies the matter

Sco 24, 01 / Oct 3, 17 14:49 UTC

Although it is in the name of Asgardia (The Space Kingdom of Asgardia), the constitution doesn't say anything about a monarch or a king, so ti could be easily fixed if the parliament approves a law against it if needed. The thing is, I don't have a problem with a king, since all the powers are divided into the Head of Nation, the parliament and the court. "King" would be only a title and I would love the founder and actual Head of Nation to have it.

Sco 26, 01 / Oct 5, 17 12:45 UTC

@Guillermo Roldan
Although it is in the name of Asgardia (The Space Kingdom of Asgardia), the constitution doesn't say anything about a monarch or a king, ...

It's a kingdom: "a country ruled by a king or queen" (Cambridge Dictionary), the "monarch" or "king" is implicit (and, in the first draft there was a precise reference too).

@Guillermo Roldan
... so ti could be easily fixed if the parliament approves a law against it if needed. The thing is, I don't have a problem with a king, since all the powers are divided into the Head of Nation, the parliament and the court. "King" would be only a title and I would love the founder and actual Head of Nation to have it.

Good luck to "easily fix" this "little problem": just remember your "king" (Head of Nation) have "the right to veto Acts adopted by the Parliament" (Const. art. 32, par. 9b, pt. 3), this means every "easy fix" the Parliament would like to enact to dispossess him from his own nation, and I suggest you to re-read the whole art. 32, specifically par. 9 which will tell you what he can do (and what you can't).
Last but not least, a brief consideration: if he thought that "founding father" was enough, no one could prevent him to call himself that way, so why he decided for "Head of Nation", "kingdom", and to be the first... king? (despite the fact all other "suggested constitutional drafts" never mentioned "kingdom", "king", "monarch" anywhere)

Sag 12, 01 / Nov 16, 17 09:07 UTC

Asgardia cannot be a Kingdom without a king. There is no mention of a king in the constitution, so there can be no king. Therefore, the word Kingdom should not be used.

Sag 13, 01 / Nov 17, 17 16:01 UTC

I'm doubt Asgardia completely "fits" the mold of any Earth government, extant or extinct. The form of government described in the Asgardian Constitution is akin to both a republic and a constitutional monarchy/oligarchy. That is, ruled by the people within the bounds of constitutional law, with overriding powers of the executive branch. Majority cannot rule outside of the bounds of law, so it's not a true democracy. The Head of Nation can veto the Acts of Parliament (as pointed out by Elwe Thor), so it's not a true republic. However, the monarch is limited (in theory) by the constitution, with the legal recourse of the democratic election of a new monarch should he fall out of favor with the majority. So, in this form of government, we have aspects of a democracy, a republic, and a constitutional monarchy. It is an interesting form of government, albeit an experiment. What do you guys think about this?

Sag 13, 01 / Nov 17, 17 16:59 UTC

The word kingdom has no political meaning, it is a wording for a group of different
parts of Asgardia the kingdom. What we have in it is first our head Dr. Igor Ashurbeyli
and his personal money, AIRC, ROOM and other businesses and partners, and
the nation Asgardia, with the community and the satellite Asgardia-1.

Grtz, Dirk.


Cap 03, 01 / Dec 5, 17 03:48 UTC

We are not a monarchy since we have no monarch and our constitution does not mention one.
We have a lot of features of direct democracy, which is a problem.

This from my Commentary on Asgardia:

C. Chapter 2 - General Provisions 

Article 1 - Name - Honestly, ridding “Kingdom” from the name of the country may lend more credibility to us. Kingdom seems to imply monarchy, feudalism, regression, with ideas based in superstition and ignorance. If you are looking for a name of a country that says secular, forward thinking, science based, and equal then the word ‘kingdom’ shouldn’t be found anywhere.

Years ago, when I was looking for a a micronation, I specifically did not want a kingdom due to their potentially feudalistic and backwards ideals, which had me choose the Republic of Talossa. Republic was in its name, which boded well. Honestly, “kingdom” is a bit misleading since we do not bear any significant traits of any earthly historical kingdoms - no established monarch either, thankfully.

For us, perhaps other descriptors would be more effective and accurate:

  • * Asgardian Collective
  • * Technocracy of Asgardia
  • * Republic of Asgardia
  • * Space Nation of Asgardia
  • * Asgard, The Space Nation

  • I do not know. Anything but kingdom! We could even just remove kingdom altogether with no loss at all. 

  • ****


I am a Candidate for District #1. Here is my well organized 24 page Complete Platform on Google Docs.
I am also working on a constitutional rewrite which is an ambitious project.

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Leo 15, 02 / Jul 2, 18 21:40 UTC

I can not understand...
As (primarily) Swiss, I am a supporter and representative of direct democracy.
As any earthling citizen knows, this state and government form is the safest and also the most citizen-friendly on our planet.
Look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy
The term Kingdom has something autocratic (not to say dictatorial).
How can a single person (as Elwe Thor put it) have the sole right of veto?
In Switzerland, the law is that the government must serve the will of the people.
The bourgeois majority (sovereign) determines the fortunes of the nation.
The executive (the Federal Council) has to put into action the will of the people.
The voters also have the right to referendum and initiative.

So it is that (in Switzerland) the people have to be whole.
How then can one (excuse the hard words) such a backward (medieval) concept represent the humanity and the future?

Have not the popular uprisings in various countries and the recent Occuppy  movement proved that presidential systems and other one-man governments  are doomed to die sooner or later?
Did not we see that the peoples of this planet are their co-inhabitants?

I'm just a simple man of the people, I do not own much, I'm dependent on the welfare and live on the margins of society ...

And yet I stand upright and stand up for the freedom and will of the people.
How  many peoples in the world dream of shaping their rights, their freedom,  their future, and taking their fate into their own hands?
And we, who want to call ourselves the future of humanity, crawl out of the bush with outdated concepts like Kingdom?
Is not that ridiculous and a betrayal of one's own cause?

Explains the logic behind it ...


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