Asg 6, 01 / Jun 23, 17 21:28 UTC

Re: Asgardian Language | La Langue Asgardian | Idioma Asgardian | 阿尔及利亚语 | Асгарда язык | Asgardian språk  


I am actually hoping that Asgardia will develop it's own language some day made up of all of the different languages of the community. Kind of like how English likes to rifle in the pockets of other languages and pick out the good ones. Or even how every day language is incorporating online terms and slang.

Asg 6, 01 / Jun 23, 17 22:27 UTC

@LoneWorf - but Unish is READY for such improvement and those language scientists actually waiting for those suggestions - so why not use the opportunity and build on this (IMO very good) foundations?

Asg 7, 01 / Jun 24, 17 18:22 UTC

I agree.
Maybe the Esperanto proposal was a little too much "european", but we must take in count the age when Esperanto born: Unish seems far more moden proposal, and far more digestible by anglophones even.

Asg 9, 01 / Jun 26, 17 06:55 UTC

@petrv, I wrote that we need to improve it.
The question is: When should we start to use it? the answer quantify the time we have to improve it. I don't know the answer, so I don't know if the time is enough

Asg 9, 01 / Jun 26, 17 12:40 UTC

My best guess about your question is: when Unish will become official language of Asgardia, which is still an hope.
Until that time will have no sense in put effort into a language we may are not going to use.

Asg 9, 01 / Jun 26, 17 12:44 UTC

It's correct. So the question becames:

When will be the language established?

Asg 9, 01 / Jun 26, 17 12:58 UTC

When the Constitutional draft will be rewritten, perhaps?
No rewrite = you'll keep those "main 13 languages", which is far worst than the "Basic" language proposed by @LoreZyra (not saying his proposal was bad in any way).

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Reason: clarification

Asg 14, 01 / Jul 1, 17 10:34 UTC

Please read and sign my petition. It directly addresses the problem of the language barrier seeks to promote more citizen participation in government.

Sep 3, 01 / Sep 12, 17 06:39 UTC

Perhaps we could start with 5 Major Languages, being the major Space Contributor nations? maybe I'm racist tho idk?

1. English
2. Russian
3. Japanese
4. Chinse
5. Indian

Nov 10, 01 / Nov 14, 17 06:00 UTC

I wonder how great it can be if we actually create a whole new language, picking out the best of the Terran languages.
But I think this could take a long time! In the concrete case, first, we have to develop our language in communion by means of open voting, especially in phonetics, there are countries that have a much greater degree of difficulty to be understood by an inhabitant of another nation, let us compare the Russian for Portuguese, it is very complicated for a person who has the Portuguese language as the main language to develop the Russian language. According to my dear ones, we are a realm that we are constantly growing, how will we go after building a language of its own to get our people literate? It is worth a reflection on this point, great nations on Earth until today have difficulties in giving a quality education to all its inhabitants in the physical environment, imagine in the "digital" environment as it is still our case ... The exit for this situation would be at the moment of the construction of the embassies in the countries, we can offer courses for citizens who really are committed to our ideal, but until then I think that a construction of a language of its own is still something very abstract, it escapes a little of the reality that we are living.

Gaudêncio Viana 

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Nov 10, 01 / Nov 14, 17 14:49 UTC

As it have been said many, many, many (add here at least 4096 "many") times, there are already made third party languages: starting from Esperanto (which have been deprecated for some reasons), continuing with a whole list of "artificial languages", up to the Unish language examined later.
That to say there is NO NEED at all, to "create a whole new language" which "could take a long time!" (at least reading previous messages, in a thread one likes to post, whould be required).

Nonetheless, Asgardia took a different way, fooling the "language information" inserted by asgardians in their profile as "people's language" instead of "able to speak" one. That's, by the way, the main source of the "language barrier" very well described by @Richard Howell (AKA people who declared to speak english, but de facto may be only able to read it: you can see they're completely not speaking in any general forum's part, and it's unbelievable they have no opinions at all, as they're speaking into regional forums, where english language knowledge is not required).

Nov 13, 01 / Nov 17, 17 18:22 UTC

I think a common language would be important for people from all over the Terrestrial world wanting to live and work together in space.  With so much work having gone into Unish so far, and that it represents the major languages spoken by Asgardians, that we should go forward with the process of making Unish the official language.  People can begin learning it in preparation. 

Nov 25, 01 / Nov 29, 17 17:56 UTC

Esperanto is a far superior choice for a secondary language for all peoples.

I have written and researched much about Esperanto as the International Auxiliary Language (IAL):

It is:

* easy to learn (~200 hours vs 2000+ for organic national languages)
* phonetic
* consistent (regular verb tensing and noun pluralization)
* no irregularities
* politically neutral

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Dec 2, 01 / Dec 4, 17 06:59 UTC

Yes 🤗 aside from everyone else’s languages we all should be learning on the meantime!

Feb 5, 02 / Feb 2, 18 14:36 UTC

A unique new langue? Why not to use some langues? ... Let the common sense run. At the end we will use the most comfortable language for the asgardians.