Hello !

We must think about the essential elements:
lipids
proteins
carbohydrates

Algae must be the best idea, and in parallel, consume CO2 products oxygen

A studies exist in pumed about that :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11881654

And Nasa think about a system in microgravity too :

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/1813.html

I was thinking we could just grow crops in specialised environments. A NASA found that growing wheat in a high-light, high-CO2 environment yielded three to four times more wheat than in regular atmosphere:

https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/478076main_Day1_P03c_Levine_Plants.pdf

As for meat, by the time we've built our first space station, lab-grown meat will be a thing, so there'll be no need to slaughter animals for protein (we might keep some around for dairy/eggs/DNA harvesting). We could potentially do the same thing with fish, if the technology has advanced enough:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576502000334

i hvae already knew that EyeR would do something like hacking the forum ... (because i would do something similar to prove that our data security is a joke)

sincerely Asgardia actually is too far from the objective (like we cant even stop spammers or stop a simple hacking, we can really bring peace to something or make a nation if or security is this simple? i have see free forums with great more security that our forum, you can say that we will work in this or that IT team will do this , but forum security should be the first thing that we needed to do as we created the forum)....i have only 3 years of programation expertise and i can say that i could easily force our forum to do a total shutdown ,using various ips to access the forum at the same time ,our Data security is a great problem EyeR as saying this as far long time, you can say that he have make a mistake using things like hacking the forum to show that he as saying the true , BUT sometimes we only learn after we are "hurt"...

In reply to Phicksur :

Oh. I did not realize he did not want to come back. Shame though; as I said, this guy contributed heavily to the community, both scientifically and otherwise. Maybe one day he might come back.

Welp... guess that finishes this off then.

EyeR reached out to me. Thankfully, I am really easy to find out in the wild, wild Internet.

He did, indeed, hack the forums. He did a non-destructive hack to demonstrate the things he has been saying all along about how insecure the website is. In essence, he was trying to 'do us a favor' in a manner that makes sense from a 'making a point' perspective, but not from a 'being a part of Asgardia' perspective.

I will not advocate for EyeR's return, and he doesn't want us to do so. He has no intentions on coming back, even if he receives, as it were, a 'full pardon'. He sent me a PGP signed message that is posted on the Internet but, in accordance with what I am going to presume is forum policy (since that's a grey area these days), I won't post a link here. If you really want to get a link to it, get in touch with me via Skype, Discord, or any of the other innumerable methods I can be reached outside these forums.

I will, however, post one paragraph that should put an end to this Free EyeR movement, because it is his own words.

The #FreeEyeR movement amuses me, highly - If I wasn't so against docile media I'd of botted up and had that trending
by now, just for the lulz - but in all seriousness, should it be granted I would refuse it. I don't move backwards, and 
that's the only place that's headed. Maybe there's hope for change - but I personally don't see it, I was trying to ignore 
many flags under the understanding it was new and they have no experience. This was naive of myself.

So, I am asking the OP to request this thread be locked, because what you are asking for is against EyeR's wishes.

SGA

Now that we have servers that deal with PETABYTES of information ( my supercomputer that is 75% finished has an IOS of 1.3 PETABYTES  ) means that petitions and e-mails can create the perfect democracy and one that does not need to have any kind of " gatekeeper " to filter e-mail or any type of communications. To be blunt, that is one of the reasons I joined the citizenship of Asgardia in the first place.

One of the reasons I enjoyed working at Cray Research was that there was only ONE PERSON between me and Dr. Chen, our VP that created the X-MP and Y-MP supercomputers.

I've proven that when I am asked to manage a Project, I deliver the results, time and time again, yet it appears that politics and procedures are getting in the way, instead of getting things done. Maybe that was the reason that this person got " exiled " from Asgardia.

I'm an expert at many of the things Asgardia needs to become a reality. Like our founder and proponent, I am a Scientist, and a practical Engineer in many subjects that coincide with the hardware  space platform that needs to be built, yet my candidacy was removed dispite my proof. That information, if given to our founder and political chief, might get our ideal space platform built in far less time by putting up faster schedules that could be possible when an experienced leader is at the helm. I have NO interest in ANY politics, many of which MUST not be used in the governance of Asgardia. PEOPLE, NOT POLITICS should be first and foremost for our Arkologies ( the word I made up for our space and experimental Terra people habitats ).  Arcadia is still going to need skiled people to BUILD AND TRAIN others to their skill sets over time. I deal in FACTS, not paperwork and people who create it.

If that is not good enough for Asgardia, I have been approached by a salary based headhunter over the weekend to manage Projects for an unnamed company that is involved with high-performance energy systems. My guess is that Tesla wants data, evaluation and Tech Support for home to large industry power solutions. Since I managed the lab at Bolder Technologies, this may be a perfect fit. I guess if my services are not wanted or needed at Asgardia, I could find other ways to get off this rock, like the first planned Mars mission by just e-mailing Elon Musk about my future plans.

The problem with a true democracy is that many people think that they don't need Engineers and Hardware " experts ". They assume all they need is to read some books to become an instant " expert ". That kind of thinking is why many democracies fail. Pushing paper ( or e-paper ) around does not get anything accomplished. We need to get rid of the bureaucracy and make a clean slate of government. Or our ideas will never get off the ground. Verstehen Zie?

Sorry, I was unclear in exactly what I want to send to Dr. Ashurbeyli because, as a mod advised in another thread, it is unwise to air dirty laundry in public.

I did not wish to generate controversy or make Asgardia look bad in public, as such I had hoped to deliver a complaint directly to Dr. Ashurbeyli, who I suspect would have been able to quickly and quietly resolve the issue.

However, for the sake of clarity and in the interest of being able to have this issue addressed and having received multiple requests to specify what exactly I wish to send to Dr. A. I will soon be reposting the following in a longer, more formal format as a formal petition and request (e-)signatures from fellow Asgardians in a dedicated thread that I will ask to be stickied by the moderation staff and that, after an appropriate period of time for the collection of signatures, I will send it by mail to the service address on the impressum page, for lack of any other known address.

In short:

I am concerned that the Asgardian officials and the forum administration/moderation staff appear to be withholding information from Dr. Ashurbeyli that he has explicitly Decreed to be sent to him.

I am concerned that the Asgardian officials and the forum administration/moderation staff appear to be actively attempting to reduce feedback by closing threads in violation of the forum rules.

I am concerned that the Asgardian officials and the forum administration/moderation staff appear to be directly violating the Decreed principles of Asgardia.

I am concerned that the Asgardian officials and the forum administration/moderation staff appear to be explicitly unwilling to execute their duties and have said as such on more than one occasion.

I am concerned that the Asgardian officials and the forum administration/moderation staff appear to be undermining the interim government of Asgardia to function.

I am concerned that the Asgardian officials and the forum administration/moderation staff appear to be refusing to make a good faith attempt to resolve serious issues.

I am concerned that these issues will cause Asgardia to fail.  And soon.

A Little bit of American history.

We had the Articles of Confederation. It was the very first American document that detailed laws and government roles. Then the Whiskey Rebellion occurred because the Articles of Confederation were essentially too weak. Out of that, we got our current document of laws and regulations, The United States Constitution. Sure it's not perfect, and new legislation get added every couple of decades or so, but it's survived about 200 years now. The NGO needs to take a look at history and legislations from around the world to get an idea of what a constitution should be like for the people. Personally, I think we should do the American thing which has the Bill of Rights (10 Amendments and an elastic clause). In the Bill of Rights we get our inalienable rights, and from there have the public vote for new laws. Since the country is still small-ish, I believe we're 108th in world population, Direct Democracy could work, but when the population keeps rising we'll have to figure out a more efficient way of voting.

A Little bit of American history.

We had the Articles of Confederation. It was the very first American document that detailed laws and government roles. Then the Whiskey Rebellion occurred because the Articles of Confederation were essentially too weak. Out of that, we got our current document of laws and regulations, The United States Constitution. Sure it's not perfect, and new legislation get added every couple of decades or so, but it's survived about 200 years now. The NGO needs to take a look at history and legislations from around the world to get an idea of what a constitution should be like for the people. Personally, I think we should do the American thing which has the Bill of Rights (10 Amendments and an elastic clause). In the Bill of Rights we get our inalienable rights, and from there have the public vote for new laws. Since the country is still small-ish, I believe we're 108th in world population, Direct Democracy could work, but when the population keeps rising we'll have to figure out a more efficient way of voting.

@GVaderslice:  the US does not have a monopoly on Space access.  Russia has access as well.  In fact, before Space X started building their own crew transport, the only way American Astronaught could get into space was with Russian rockets after the Shuttle program ended.