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DECLINED PETITION
Jul 12, 17 / Leo 25, 01 23:19 UTC
It is necessary to clean up debris before building environments in orbit.
The internet is full of ideas on how to do this. My blog has many such details.
The Ministry is requested to form a working group on the evaluation, costing, development and deployment of effective orbital platforms that serve to destroy debris. This group can start at once, and allow our nation to show reliable scientific competence to the world.
One of the technologies now being tested. http://cosmomayak.ru/ However, it is designed for mixing with the orbit of the new exhaust the resource objects, not old rubbish.
很不错的电子,如果可以支持早期的太空垃圾回收(或者销毁)就更加完美,不过这些技术目前还在研发之中,不过我也相信我的国家,能够在这方面发展起来!
补充一下,是“很不错的点子”,而不是“很不错的电子”,刚才输入错了
We have lot of young people, out of which mostly should be technologically sound. We should make a group
Projects like this will slowly develop Asgardia's physical capability and simultaneously help with problems that nobody else will deal with.
How ever I can help!
Indeed I couldn't concur more, lead by example and in doing so we can actually commercialise the technology to clear orbits of other companies that wish to either remove their dead equipment or provide space for new companies that need that orbit.
I would love to be ...
Indeed I couldn't concur more, lead by example and in doing so we can actually commercialise the technology to clear orbits of other companies that wish to either remove their dead equipment or provide space for new companies that need that orbit.
I would love to be apart of such a comity, brainstorming, researching technologies or assisting in programming or electronics where possible.
I also agree it would be a good start to preparing other nations to recognise Asgardia in its entirety. And what better way to do it than clearing the existing rubbish out of space (and charge the cost to the relevant country)
Una muy buena fuente de ingresos para Asgardia y un enooorme logro tecnológico. Apoyo la propuesta, por un espacio libre de escombros y basura espacial Y eventualmente su reciclaje
Before we can even start looking at the technical challenges of cleaning up space debris, we will have to attend to the legal ones. Currently there exists no Law of Salvage in space. Without this we run the risk being accused of theft; espionage and, in extreme cases, an ...
Before we can even start looking at the technical challenges of cleaning up space debris, we will have to attend to the legal ones. Currently there exists no Law of Salvage in space. Without this we run the risk being accused of theft; espionage and, in extreme cases, an Act of War for gaining unauthorized access to State property.
Next question we would have to ask ourselves, once we have a viable way of accessing the space debris: What do we do with it?
Do we (1) De-orbit and burn it up? or (2) Recycle the materials for space construction?
Good point on point of law on salvage, we really need to get some sort of consensus on that. We call it space junk, it is the most expensive junk ever created. It is also mass we don't have to lift into orbit. I'm for recycling every last gram ...
Good point on point of law on salvage, we really need to get some sort of consensus on that. We call it space junk, it is the most expensive junk ever created. It is also mass we don't have to lift into orbit. I'm for recycling every last gram of it possible. We may also provide a viable service repairing and servicing some of that junk. AndreFourle is correct in that we have to get some sort of treaty in place before we start dithering about with some one else's junk.
Оne interesting option - disposal of debris, especially small ones, the most dangerous, as a component of the working medium to kinetic rocket engine by Podvysotsky&Panov in deriving the cargo beyond low earth orbit, first and foremost, to the moon.
Read more kinetic workflow engine described here: ...
Оne interesting option - disposal of debris, especially small ones, the most dangerous, as a component of the working medium to kinetic rocket engine by Podvysotsky&Panov in deriving the cargo beyond low earth orbit, first and foremost, to the moon.
Read more kinetic workflow engine described here: http://lnfm1.sai.msu.ru/SETI/koi/articles/86.pdf (sorry, only in Russian). A bit like the old American project "Medusa", only the explosion in the focus of the reflector is not nuclear, but kinetic, due to the collision of the fragments of the working medium on a collision trajectories with a relative velocity of up to tens of km/s.
In the classic version by Podvysotsky&Panov managed "probes" face fired towards the targets. We can also use collisions of space debris, especially formed a ring in the plane of the orbit with small inclination, with targets generated by the dispenser from liquid plastic, polymerizing in the open space. Reflectors, dispensers and tanks for liquid polymer can be a model for all the "debris-fuel" spacecrafts.
This variant may solved two problems of Asgardia: active space exploration, and mitigate threats to spacecraft, including manned, from space debris.
I propose to consider the question.
See also https://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=38184&cpage=1#comment-164278.
This is EU analog of Russian "Mayak".
In this geometry of InflateSail it is possible to test the reflector of kinetic engine - at least disposable, for single-pulse orbital transfer maneuver.
See also https://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=38184&cpage=1#comment-164278.
This is EU analog of Russian "Mayak".
In this geometry of InflateSail it is possible to test the reflector of kinetic engine - at least disposable, for single-pulse orbital transfer maneuver.
This technology would be the embryo of far more advance technology needed when humanities roaming around the astroid belt.
Good idea my friend. I support you
This technology would be the embryo of far more advance technology needed when humanities roaming around the astroid belt.
Good idea my friend. I support you
Devil's advocate. You know about all the technological and current efforts because others in governmental agencies and industries around the world are looking to capitalize on these projects. There is money and expertise out there and Asgardia does not necessarily have that. Space debris is a real problem, but ...
Devil's advocate. You know about all the technological and current efforts because others in governmental agencies and industries around the world are looking to capitalize on these projects. There is money and expertise out there and Asgardia does not necessarily have that. Space debris is a real problem, but just because we are the space nation does not mean that we need to invest in cleaning it up. Rather we should invest selectively.
Consider: We have a budget of A+B+C+D. We Have to earmark A+B+C for infrastructure, governance, the bank, scholarships, etc. Do we spend D cleaning up the garbage of other nations who are also trying to pick up that same garbage, all the while netting nothing of financial, technological, or societal value unique to Asgardia, or do we invest it into something else that adds more capital to the value of the nation.
I support this petition for the following reasons;
1) There are already many efforts to study tackling this problem but still not enough.
2) This could start by being an effort by Asgardian members, to show support for existing efforts, particularly the open-source ones which ...
I support this petition for the following reasons;
1) There are already many efforts to study tackling this problem but still not enough.
2) This could start by being an effort by Asgardian members, to show support for existing efforts, particularly the open-source ones which anyone with a PC and/or a reasonable web-cam can already join. (BOINC, and such clients help global efforts by allowing your machine to help these projects process data).
3) After we have a community of interested members, we could jointly do our bit as Asgardians to add to the global pool of knowledge and ideas, thus also raising our profile in the World (which in turn may help to legitimize nationhood with the United Nations, and other entities).
4) When our Space Ministry is ready (and more relevant), this could then form the needed department, as you would then effectively have experienced researchers in the form of the existing interest group, negating the need to create this entity immediateley (and potentially keeping costs down until we can form an effective working group).
Just another point in relation to AndreFourie 's point regarding whether we de-orbit or re-cycle.
I think that if we start as we mean to go on, then Recycling should be the preferred method (along with the technologies that would require). ...
Just another point in relation to AndreFourie 's point regarding whether we de-orbit or re-cycle.
I think that if we start as we mean to go on, then Recycling should be the preferred method (along with the technologies that would require). However the cost of getting into space, and the fuel, plus bits that might fall-off during the whole effort, make for a difficult choice.
De-orbiting would likely be cheaper, but how much damage does that do to Earth's environment, particularly considering how much junk is up there already? Sadly, it is likely that recycling would be very expensive (and maybe even not viable due to radiation and contaminants (even within the Van-Allen Belt)).
I'm sure there are many more points that could be raised, and indeed I think they should be, isn't that what a Working Group does? :)
Type "Orbital Recycler"? it's a great idea!
Cleanig the orbit for gainnig founds is a great idea but need great capacitation for working . Im offer for first volunter!
Cleanig the orbit for gainnig founds is a great idea but need great capacitation for working . Im offer for first volunter!
J'ai été informé pour créer un appareil anti-gravité.
i totally support this petition we need to do something about it fast
Il faut se lever pour tout ce qui est possible et imaginable dans la science dans la culture etc et même essayer de rencontrer des extraterrestres qui pourraient nous aider.
Il faut se lever pour tout ce qui est possible et imaginable dans la science dans la culture etc et même essayer de rencontrer des extraterrestres qui pourraient nous aider.
I support this, but not to destroy space debris, it should be recycled, for now price to get material to space is big. I say we use it to build station or some parts or save it as material for 3D printers. Many say to shove it to earth, ...
I support this, but not to destroy space debris, it should be recycled, for now price to get material to space is big. I say we use it to build station or some parts or save it as material for 3D printers. Many say to shove it to earth, but thats not space like thinking - of reusing waste materials.
If the Space Junk can be positively identified, it should be up to the country / organisation that launched it to pay for it's removal.
Yes, Yes, Yes.
And keep in mind that space debris can damage any space station - they have to be cleaned or reduced at some point
ja...clean comes first...