The entire situation may very well be a sort of a beta test for the near future. Maybe a test launch of how to best go about this groundbreaking situation and make sure the bugs are ironed out before a lot more finances get invested. We should stay united and wait to see how things progress. Maybe we could form an unofficial committee tasked with keep an eye on everything official we can locate and inform the other citizens should things not go proper. Regarless of who we are or where were from, we all share the common interest of wanting to make a difference by starting a new sort of life in space and furthering humanity. We need to stand united first and foremost. Im not saying dont sign this petition, because I believe in individual thoughts and opinions. I do suggest we all accept the constitution and if youre worried, sign the petition as well and make your voice heard here. This needs to get off the ground. If things go well, itll happen faster.. If things seem like theyre going south, we stand together and Im sure people will be lining up to help. If we are to be a country, our message to the world has to be unity. A surprising amount of people believe this is some sort of cult with the aim at starting a secret and separate branch of humanity and/or that this whole thing isnt real. We must stand together and do our part. Most of all, we have to believe. Believe in the reality of Asgardia and act accordingly to the point where no one can doubt its validity. We must be united in this effort!

And once said official 'unofficial' committee is formed, the group would keep evidence of all official document changes, keep track of media events and all that is stated, etc. The committee could, say, find a lawyer (preferably a fellow Asgardian) and make sure were covered legally in case the issues arent directly addressed to each and every citizen, and hopefully the lawyer could make sure the citizens located in other planet-side countries are protected by either national or international law. If it had to go to court, surely benefactors across the world would assist us with legal fees should something this major have a need to become mainstream world news. We must be patient and show our firm solidarity here and ensure both the safety of our future as people of Earth and the safety of our future as citizens of Asgardia and the world view of us. I am positive that once we have this committee formed and running, that we can inform every citizen of Asgardia what we know, what we have learned, and that we have informed our Supreme Leader Ashurbeyli of all of this and await a formal response to all. Once the committee reaches that point, we wait and then contact every citizen once again and find a really good way to put our reaction to the action or inaction of our leadership to a real vote. With advice from previously mentioned lawyers of course.

I, personally, very much hope any of the issues will be quelled long before it has to come down to anything so major. I hope that you all agree with me and decide to stand for Asgardia. Since its been a while and I havent seen a lot of talk of formal organization on these message boards, aside from petitions and message boards that could probably easily be edited or manipulated, I will offer my e-mail address at the end of this post or you can find me and send a message with contact info, and if you're an Asgardian citizen your Asgardian ID number, through Facebook and Twitter. I will reply with information on who else is with us and once there are at least ten of us in total we can figure out a way to best get started and discuss what we know so far. We can start a new official 'unofficial' committee thread on the message board as well and announce our actions and the results of our meetings, meeting dates, etc. to others there until someone has a way to obtain a complete citizen list and a means of contact. I am willing to do what it takes to unite citizens on both sides of this argument in a fair and logical manner for solidarity of the future of Asgardia. Message me and help out. We all have a responsibility to do our part! I hope to hear from you soon! This has an amazing potential and I know that we can all stand together and assure everything about Asgardia stays alive and just as promised from the start if not more!

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On the latter two, be sure to friend or add me! In the message dont forget your contact information, Asgardian ID number, and anything else you wanna add! And no worries, I will not share any of your information whatsoever with anyone without prior permission and notice (and it'd only be something the committee has voted on prior). Since so few citizens have agreed let alone regularly visit the site, I will wait as long as it takes to get this going. Time is of the essence due to everything that is supposed to take place by years end. Thanks for taking the time to read!

I am abashed that such an instrument of the citizens of Asguardia Has forgotten ; Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal inalienable righteousness of all members of THE HUMAN Family is the foundation of Freedom, Justice, and Peace in Space. Duly noted the Charter with Geneva ie Former United Nations Summit. Common understanding is fundamentally essential. Where is the proclamation Universal Freedoms with dignity and worthyness of the Human Person?

Citation General Assembly Resolution 217 A(III)

10 December 1948, Universal Declation of Human Sentient  Erectus Sapions

I am abashed that such an instrument of the citizens of Asguardia Has forgotten ; Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal inalienable righteousness of all members of THE HUMAN Family is the foundation of Freedom, Justice, and Peace in Space. Duly noted the Charter with Geneva ie Former United Nations Summit. Common understanding is fundamentally essential. Where is the proclamation Universal Freedoms with dignity and worthyness of the Human Person?

Citation General Assembly Resolution 217 A(III)

10 December 1948, Universal Declation of Human Sentient  Erectus Sapions

• some are taking this as an virtual reality game we have to accept the constitution so we can move to the next step as an real nation and asgardia and the constitution giving the righ to asgardians to Edite the constitution and for the voting time of course we have to keep it open for a time because after hong kong Press Conference a lot of people joined asgardia so we have to give them a chance to vote

I think we need to accept the Constitution as a first draft, then add referenda to it, as it itself states. Read the whole thing before you accept it. Worries of a dictatorship are nonsensical, especially in its current state. Asgardia has no assets or ability to make you do anything in your current country of residence anyway. Besides everyone has a right to revoke their own citizenship at any time. We gotta get this thing off the ground before we can do anything with it.

I agree that we should each accept the Constitution as a first draft.  This is necessary to get things off the ground (pun intended).  And, yes, please read the entire Constitution as written before attempting to change parts of it.  Also read the proposed revisions.  There are some excellent suggestions there.

Part of the difficulty, for me, is finding my way around the website.  Just finding out how to work my way through the forums has been challenging.  If English is not your native language, it's probably much more difficult.

Not because it is a first draft that anything can serve. Small flaws are acceptable of course, but a sequence of flaws make it not viable. Take a look in it!

The Head of Nation may be removed from his/her position by the Parliament or by treason, represented by the Prosecuter with it confirmed by the court.

Guess what? The Head of Nation have unlimited power to dissolve the Parliament, to appoint and remove the Supreme Court, the Prosecuter, your citizenship and everything. Just like that. No protection. No legal process. Nothing can stop him from wiping anyone out of Asgardia who is against his toughts.

I have voted for Consitution, because it is important to our founders and. However I have found Asgardia's Constitution rushed and surely will have to be reviewed as soon as possible, therefore singed this petition. In my humble opinion it is too long and complicated, but tell me I am wrong.

For the record.  I would like to withdraw my vote to ratify the constitution.  I did so under duress, as it is obvious that the leaders do not intend to amend the Constitution to meet the expectations of the citizens, nor do they intend to grant citizenship to those who seek to force that issue.

Just like all new ideas that are formed, the grand idea it's self may be what a lot of people are looking for. When these ideas are broken down into stages to try and implement them, there will be disagreement. Tunnel vision can become an issue that many will not be able to get past. If you are true to the idea then it will take time, Space is a big place with many unknows and this has never been done before.

My understanding of this process is that this is a petition for a referendum, to make changes to our constitution.???

We don't have a constitution, only a draft that people are voting for.

If changes are being made throughout the voting period then all votes made,

before the change was made, should be void and will need to be voted for again

A final draft should be made taking into account all of the issues raised, time should be then given for review and to rewrite and only then with set times and number be open to voting.

Power to the people with full transparency

When I signed it was under the impression that the constitution has sections allowing for amendments to be democratically added (Similar to the US Constitution). Was I mistaken? I'm fine with an imperfect initial constitution so long as there is an inherent mechanism to keep it alive, responsive, relevant, and intelligently self correcting. Personally, I disliked the section describing that you could not talk negatively about Asgardia; that idea is  a direct affront to freedom and free speech, and is unhealthy. That would be one of my first amendment suggestions.

Although I cannot agree with everything in the constitution, that is not an issue.  We are never going to be able to reach the point of creating something that everyone can agree on.  I am prepared to accept something that I do not 100% agree on because there may be points where my opinions are not as useful as the ideas of those who have put in greater thought.  What is important is that I can agree enough to accept it.

However, we are seeking to be taken seriously on the world stage.  We are seeking to be recognised as a nation.  At present it is my opinion that we have only one important task above all others, and that is to put in place a solid structure as a nation.  In essence, the constitution.  Clearly this has not been done yet.  I believe that many objections are nitpicking, and not necessarily valid reasons to hold up the ultimate creation of a finalised constitution.  Despite this there are clearly errors within the constitution that do not hold up to even the briefest scrutiny.  The most egregious being that in Article 35, s9. This section, which literally deals with the appointment? dismissal? of Justices, does not even make sense.

If an issue in an article in a legal document dealing with the status of legal officers has not been recognised and corrected then it has clearly not been given the necessary attention.  If this mistake has not been recognised then it can only mean that the constitution has at present not been scrutinised and amended by the very people about whom the section is written, and who should be most qualified to scrutinise and amend it.  Additionally, if the constitution has been accepted by citizens of Asgardia then they have either not read it, or they do not care that there are such obvious and unworkable mistakes.

We must get this right before we can move any further forward because can not be taken seriously on an international legal stage if we cannot even write a constitution that makes sense in its entirety.  There is no 'ratify this to move forward'; if we accept and vote for a constitution that does not make sense then we will be 'ratifying this to move backwards'.

There is no necessity to rush through a hasty piece of legislation.  At present a constitution is not needed.  What is needed is for a constitution to be drafted.  The only reason to create one that is sloppy is because time is non negotiably of the essence.  Given that we have no human bearing spacecraft or space stations it is certain that we can afford to put in the extra time to avoid becoming an international laughing stock.

I agree that the start is under pressure. the fact that the constitution and the adjustments that have been made offer us the potential to challenge, it gives me the conviction that when we start to become a nation and, of course, we will have better communication systems, we will vote for every article in our constitution. reality does not change from a constitution. The universe belongs to the stars.