Dec 28, 16 / Cap 27, 00 18:13 UTC


Is there gonna be internet connection in Asgardia Spaceship? And How we get Internet from earth if there gonna be internet?

Dec 28, 16 / Cap 27, 00 18:44 UTC

We would reasonably have something like the Internet on Asgardia with a possibility to connect to the "old" Internet much like the Issue has now. It would work just fine just a little slow.

Jan 7, 17 / Aqu 07, 01 04:50 UTC

There's already "internet in space". However, available bandwidths will not support our population.

Once quantum communication devices are a viable prospect, we can leverage quantum entanglement to not only send data from earth to orbit without delays associated with conventional transmission, but even from one point in the solar system to another - or even another galaxy - instantly.

Jan 14, 17 / Aqu 14, 01 05:42 UTC

Nasa not only has LEO Internet, but they are also working on Internet systems that will work further out in the solar system. Also, the Internet is only slow in LEO because it relies on a single LEO to Earth connections. With a larger population in orbit, it will make more sense to place edge servers on stations/ships which would cache frequently used content for faster access.

Jan 14, 17 / Aqu 14, 01 23:45 UTC

The main problem with moving signals through the expanse of the solar system is the inherent slow speed at which light moves. Even as close as LEO this is noticable, and the additional lag would be prevalent and a natural speed limit regardless of how much wider you made the pipe by using additional uplinks... Software like squid certainly can reduce common transfered components - say the stock pictures and code template for google's search - and simply transfer the unique parts to that transaction - but technologies like TLS tend to make that a little difficult in practice. Operating as a CDN on the other hand could potentially solve such a process - initially there will be issues with companies giving you copies of their product etc, but once that trust is built a "local" cache of the remote service could reduce strain on the Earthbound comms - but it would potentilaly move more data overall keeping these services synced.

The internet could work as is across larger distances, the only thing really required to be adjusted is the expected TTL - time to live - of packets. A packet taking between four and twenty four mins or so account for variable position in relation to be routed through to mars isn't acceptable to most software commonly used on wide area networks, most expecting a much more prompt response.

IMHO, the way forwards is definitely quantum entanglement. Regardless of distance, ten meters or ten million AU - they take the same amount of time to get there. Instantly. Admittedly, this technology is within it's infancy and requires a little work but we're at a stage already where we can in theory encode a 0/1 state to a photon and replicate this to another. It should be possible to simply lay 1500 of them next to each other and then somewhat keep some standard to the existing encoding technologies and simply craft packets that will fit into existing interwebs infrastructure - the limits being how fast you can read the written bits, and how fast you can write them. More units can stack side by sits at once. Such things are great for point to point transmission, and could create long distnace "hubs" or "routers" but have an obvious flaw with attaching additional units. This is a great security feature, but it's a usability/expansion nightmare. But such a tech could easily link installations, which could then pipe it around "locally" via more conventional methods. 1500 such units however do not expect to be small any time soon, or trivial to produce at such scales to be able to parallelise in order to send more than one packet per cycle(commonly your local wifi should do thousands without sweating, even older tech should be high hundreds). But, luckily, we're not going to be able to attribute the significant resources to think about sensibly putting our population into space any time soon. There's plenty of time to work on problems like this.

More importantly, we need a comms infrastructure for now. For our citizens on the Earth. Relying on the good will of Earth companies and governments isn't the smartest or indeed sanest stratergy imaginable. If chosen, isolating us from each other would currently be easy to achieve. Some un-named goverments have previous history for being less than entirely trustable. With an independant network we would be able to ensure access. With enough capacity we could potentially rent access to the common interwebs through this to other Earth civilisations. I initially thought of something like iriduim but with more competitive rates, Our citizens naturally wouldn't have such a subscription model - But this would require getting the cost of the user side hardware down, and would currently provide some serious lag and bandwidth limitations, even with distributed upload points. Most users wouldn't be happy with paying $70 for something slower than what they already have, for cheaper. As most places are upgrading/upgraded fro 3G to 4G buying all the 3G hardware could be cost effective - but this route has issues with licencing in most regions, and is easly disrupted at least at a local level. Local links could be build with wifi meshnets and distances covered with 3G/4G. Traversing between continents would currently require utilising traditional transports, I don't see us laying undersea fibo anytime soon. and us such a straegy thus is overly unsuitable for resilience of high level interferences. It'd also be providing easily exploited bottlenecks.

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Jan 26, 17 / Aqu 26, 01 17:37 UTC

Well they should consider fast internet(very fast) . Our citizens should enjoy every aspect in life especially internet. I know they can try but why dont you try the ( star trek and starwars ) communication platform. COOL

Jan 26, 17 / Aqu 26, 01 18:16 UTC

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Jan 27, 17 / Aqu 27, 01 12:31 UTC

+1 Clive.

I don't recall Starwars detailing the principles on which their comms technologies operate, but the "subspace" used in starwars isn't likely to be realistically obtainable.

Well they should consider fast internet(very fast)

And how would you suggest this be achieved? Currently, the speed limits are somewhat based around that of light and the time it takes to cover a specified distance. This naturally becomes more of a problem as the distance increases. There's also limits on the width to the data transmitted in a single burst, as much as time it takes to get there.

One potential method would be to leverage quantum entanglement - which could "flip bits" "faster than light", as distance is irrelevant to this medium. There are various issues with practically deploying this technology at this time - most notably that these things operate in "pairs" and that's perfect for a point»point link but for operability as the likes of exchanges, hubs, routers etc then much work is required. This only solves the speed issue, not the bandwith - and that's possible to encompass by simply scaling the technology, but the size of a current package to hold but a few photons scaled up to usable quantities - a few thousand photons, minimal - would be prohibitive in scale. But expect this to shrink over time.

Jan 29, 17 / Pis 01, 01 19:04 UTC

Yes, the internet, and generally communications, will be ones of the biggest issues for the spaceship because we may not enjoy the instant voice conversations as like as we do on Earth. However, it is very interesting to know that this issue will be resolved by quantum communications. Let's give a big motivation to quantum communications to go beyond the time barrier.