Nov 24, 02 / Nov 28, 18 22:14 UTC

Contributing to Asgardia  

Hello fellow Asgardians!

I looked around but didn't find a way to contribute into the development of Asgardia except for voting. I think that as a citizen I should be contributing as much as I can.

Is there a way to volunteer for practical projects/research that I haven't seen?

If not then I think that there should be a way to make use of the skills of every single Asgardian to speed up the development of Asgardia.

Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 01:15 UTC

i know right

we, the people, just have to wait around for this 'government' to make these plans that could be finished in half the time. If they only allowed us to work on things...

I cant even vote, im too young, so, hopefully soon they can allow many people to actually be apart of this, rather then a number for population.

Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 04:54 UTC

 Another problem is, who owns the rights to " Asgardia " because lets just say I paid that " Citizen fee " then it seems to me, after paying that, and on top of my pre registered and verified stuff that I did to first get on here, I should be able to create my own business online, for example Asgardia Coffee, in theory I could set up an online business that ships coffee internationally , simply find a coffee supplier, slap my business name on it, pop on the Asgardia logo, and now ipsofacto, I am the very first Asgardia business , operating out of the USA, and with that income, I should then have to pay taxes as an Asgardian citizen. The question then becomes, do I have to pay two taxes, one to Asgardia and one to the US government for operating this business in the USA ?


Or if Asgardia had it's own Internet Web Provider  and I operated said online business on that website, would I then only have to pay taxes to Asgardia....


 Now if  " Asgardia " is Trademarked, then none of this matters. 

Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 08:28 UTC

Hi Kalevipoeg,

about volunteering you can see in https://asgardia.space/en/page/faq#faq_id_11

Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 14:43 UTC

@GLC3295

As a US citizen, you have to pay taxes on income derived from the US, even if you're a citizen somewhere else, or live anywhere else (on the planet). This continues until you renounce your US citizenship.

Expats still must pay on their US income, and still must declare income they make from the other country they may spend the most time. The income must be declared, but only after a certain limit does the US tax the US citizen require taxes to be paid on that too.

If you're a non-US citizen but are operating a business in or through US soil, then you're required to pay taxes to the US on that income, plus any licensing fees, registration requirements, etc.

I'm not an attorney or an account. Your mileage may vary. This is my understanding based off reading the IRS. gov website and previous research I've done.

  Last edited by:  Mariya Kudryavtseva (Asgardian, Member of the Parliament)  on Nov 26, 02 / Nov 30, 18 08:46 UTC, edited 1 time in total.

Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 19:53 UTC

Many people are disappointed that they thought there was some space station construction project or some kind of developing technology they could get involved in to help,

But there is only this platform here, which does not offer many options, basically it is just a passive platform, there is nothing here for people to develop,

There is no Academy to learn about Astronomy, Physics...

There is no Criptocoin to mine, not even a simulation game that could motivate people and raise some money for the cause.

  Last edited by:  Emilio Asgardiano (Asgardian)  on Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 22:06 UTC, edited 1 time in total.

Nov 25, 02 / Nov 29, 18 21:58 UTC

Thanks for the link Mariya Kudryavtseva!


There could be some general directions that we could work towards, for example gathering contacts in our countries if possible and thus help Asgardia and promote it's ideas.

Asgardia's end goal in the 'far' future is still a nation in space. Getting people in our countries to share their skills and knowledge for the common good of the mankind through Asgardia would prevent troubles in the future.

I just feel that a citizen should be contributing more than 100€ every year.

Nov 26, 02 / Nov 30, 18 07:40 UTC

@Emilio Asgardiano,

To understand this simple facts people who registered at project should just previously read the FAQ... If you await something which isn't was even promised - it is a little strange as I think.

About fees was said at first days of Asgardia (and you still have rights of resident without payment). Space ark? From the start was said: more than likely - never. Now: in very distant future. Academy?.. Who should pay to professors if do not want to pay fee?.. Are you ready to do yourself such serious work for free? Cryptocurrency will be. But not for mining... Not all cryptocurrency is mined. And to activate this cryptocurrency we previously should have economical program (approximate time of anounce: 10 december 2018).

Before to use something or register somethere - read the manual!

Nov 27, 02 / Dec 1, 18 13:57 UTC

@Archamon

Thanks for the guidance

Dec 1, 02 / Dec 3, 18 05:03 UTC

doesn't matter, Asgardia is a joke, just like The Mars One project.  There is no way to verify anything that Asgardia does, no one has a clue where or how this supposed government operates out of or even has a meeting. An more than likely all it is, is a club for the rich, so they can piddle around, and pretend to be doing something, all the while, the man at the top has created a brand spanking new pyramid scheme, the rich pays him, he does very little to nothing. I just like to debate , especially when laws are blatantly stupid, and especially when they have very convoluted wording and then you have people who can't comprehend the notion of either. 


 An then to say, that hopefully in the future the year 3000 Asgardia will have a real space station in outer space, and sorry we don't think we can do anything in our life time, is beyond ridiculous and a joke. 


 If this was worded not as a space kingdom, but as a DIGITAL , INTERNET BASED NATION. Then I would be like okay I get it. But when you say well, we are based on an idea, for the long run, for a future well past our life times, I gotta call BS.  


 Heck forget Mars, forget spaceships and space stations.  How about sending up one person from Asgardia, with an Asgardian Flag, to the moon, pick out a spot, an plant it on the moon and then designate that area as Asgardian property. Or if it can't be claimed as property, still just plant a flag up there. Be the first Asgardian on the moon.  Can't be that hard to catch a ride to the moon.


Mine as well, because supposedly the UN says Asgardia is real.


I am though kind of puzzled how easily fools part with their money, I really need to create my own website, promise a bunch of wild ideas and then tell people they have to give me money, or they are not members, but then also say they don't have to give me money and can stay members, then tell everyone else that it makes sense and to just re read everything.

Dec 1, 02 / Dec 3, 18 10:19 UTC

You don't have to pay the citizen fee.

As for the lack of information, I hope it will be fixed so we can actually see what happens and what needs to be improved. I think that right now they are still setting up the government and assigning tasks.

Being a citizen doesn't gie any significant benefits at the moment so it doesn't matter if you support Asgardia financially or not.

Dec 2, 02 / Dec 4, 18 05:18 UTC

smh. ya just proved my point. 

Dec 6, 02 / Dec 8, 18 21:46 UTC

gotta side with GLC3295

Dec 24, 02 / Dec 26, 18 06:05 UTC

yo propuse en su momento un proyecto para formar un astillero lunar, la creacion de una estacion espacial.

Pero me pidieron parar mis operaciones. aún sigo en espera de luz verde para seguir el proyecto para asgardia. ya que estaba haciendolo muy completo almenos en papel

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I proposed at the time a project to form a lunar shipyard, the creation of a space station.
but they asked me to stop my operations. I'm still waiting for a green light to continue developing the project for asgardia. since I was making it very complete at least on paper

Jan 2, 03 / Jan 2, 19 18:57 UTC

@GLC3295 You cannot claim territory on the moon  as per the Outer Space Treaty.

That is one of the stated reasons of Asgardia's existence  to be able to , as a nation, initiate or partake in the discussion to change the Outer Space treaty, to include ownership of space resources.