Mar 5, 17 / Ari 08, 01 17:18 UTC

UK Asgardians' meet-up  

It was suggested by Callisto that we as Asgardians living in the UK have some form of regular meeting to socialise, discuss ideas etc. This is a very loose idea at the moment, but I for one think it's something that's definitely worth doing. Now we just need to organise: where will it take place, when, and how often?

My input: I feel like this is the sort of thing that should happen more than once per year, and should be hosted in different venues around the country. I know I would love to meet some of you, but I don't have the money to travel more than a few miles from home at the moment. What do other people think?

Mar 5, 17 / Ari 08, 01 18:48 UTC

I personally don't think the "physical" aspect brings to the table any significant feature. At least within the current landscape. Socialise, independantly - maybe. Discussions, ideas etc that relate to Asgardia by rights should remain somewhere any Asgardian could, if they should choose, easily take part.

Fracturing off into little cliques isn't something that's likely to have a good long term outcome. It should be all or none IMHO.

Mar 5, 17 / Ari 08, 01 22:34 UTC

My input :

I do like the idea of a "meet up" of uk asgardian's either monthly or yearly however there is a lot of things which needs considering like for example: ideal location so that people could get to , the current situation of a UK asgardian ( can a Asgardian get to the location? Is the location accessible for people with disabilities?... Etc.)

Personally and currently I could only travel around south Yorkshire due to my poor financial situation.....on public transport.

I think that if this idea is to take hold then , in account of the current landscape , a "slow and steady " approach may be best. An example of this is either have people add each other on Facebook and Socialise with each other or have a dedicated but temporary Facebook group to Socialise, discussions , idea's , etc which relate to Asgardia and by rights should remain somewhere any Asgardian could , if they should choose, easily take part. .. Until a "meet up " is organised.

In my humble opinion , it should be for all or none at all because fracturing into little groups isn't something which may not have ( in the long term) a good outcome)

Regards

Fpitts

  Last edited by:  Francis Pitts (Asgardian)  on Mar 7, 17 / Ari 10, 01 21:36 UTC, Total number of edits: 2 times
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Mar 7, 17 / Ari 10, 01 00:08 UTC

The problem with attempting to use things like FB is some of us are not quite that retarded. The proflic privacy risk and shady backburner projects such firms manifest could possibly even be the precise reason these forums came into existence.

Nothing that we do should end up on there, least of all because nothing is temporary. Nothing is deleted as your personal data is this companies product - why would they allow you to delete their income stream? At best the attempt to delete just means you'll not see it again whilst the attempt has been flagged and added into the mine with the rest of the data.

Mar 7, 17 / Ari 10, 01 16:13 UTC

In both definitions, the word was accurate in the context. Casual glance into the research conducted via FB employees, qualified mental health professionals employed specifically for their expertise, on the victims I mean users of this service concerning manipulation of social opinion, mental state of health, and other ethically/morally questionable outcomes, combined with the success these initatives have displayed would readily support the first supplied definition.

Choosing to define it in the offensive can say a lot within itself. But considering the overall operations in place, continually placing spikes into a bat someone is building to beat you with does demonstrate a significantly less advanced mental or social development than is expected for ones age and becomes a statement of fact more than an insult.

The intent was not to be offensive or insulting, but to highlight that the use of such retardations is incredibly unwise.

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Mar 7, 17 / Ari 10, 01 23:36 UTC

Dear @EyeR

I only used FB as a example to the idea of a "meet up" , it doesn't have to be used because as far as I am concerned the idea of a "meet up" isn't credible due to the fact of a lot of things which need to be considered ( as seen in my last post) I understand all of the privacy policy risks ,manipulations of social opinion , etc. as the main reason which I personally was hesitant in joining the social network ( I didn't joined till I was in my late teens)

I was glad when these forums was created. This is the first forum which I have ever used to be honest but I prefer it than FB due to the many advantages in comparison to FB. I will say that it is up to the person who decides what platform he/she uses to communicate with whoever and in terms of the Asgardia, it is up to the person if he/she decides to use FB ( and have all the risks which relate to it) or use to fourm... It is the basic free will of the person .

Furthermore the useage of the word "retard" can be offensive to somebody , regardless of the nature of how it's put....somebody will take offence to it. I understand that it was not meant as a offence or a insult , in fact I didn't took offence to it but I can understand that other people would find it offensive. My physical , mental and social development is fine thank you.

I think that what people got to understand is that there will a lot of difference of opinion which need to be respected, regardless of they mental, physical or social development.

The use of derogatory terms and/or words isn't helpful to a person. Although I do not find the word "retard" offensive , I do find it a derogatory term. Instead of using these terms , help a person out by the simple use of explanations and if possible point out your disliking if any.

Instead of pointing out person's fault , help them and aid them...
You may or may not heard the old saying "if you don't have anything nice to say , don't say anything at all"

I think that is what everybody has to take note (not only you or me but everybody) in when they use this forum.

Kind regards

Fpitts

  Last edited by:  Francis Pitts (Asgardian)  on Mar 8, 17 / Ari 11, 01 00:07 UTC, Total number of edits: 1 time
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Mar 8, 17 / Ari 11, 01 01:17 UTC

IMHO a "meet up" is certainly credible. I personally don't see what benefit this could bring - digital is faster, and generally easier. And cheaper. I like cheap, big fan of not spending money.

To actually make this practical might take a little organisational effort - but it's not beyond the scope of possibilty. Especially if there's a few comming past others car pools and the likes can offset the lack of funds. A little bit of crowdfunding amongst ourselves could likely come up with some coach hire or something. There's multiple options, we've got to be able to make one or more of them work.

Again, it was not my intent to cause offense, or to be personally insulting. I readily admit I almost certianly could of selected "better" words, phrases w/e or even gone to greater lengths to explain what in particular would be making it a retarded option. Lack of effort on my part. Pointing out faults is kind of what I do best. At a single glance I tend to observe the operating principles but all I actually see are the holes in the system. The only thing I do better is exploit them, and to be honest that's far too easy for my preferances mitigating them is a much more interesting challenge. Highlighting the fault is within itself an aid - it's remarkably difficult to fix a problem you do not know exists. Therefore a list of faults is actually a list of things to improve, and understanding why it's faulty most of the time tends to suggest the solution within itself.

I may not commonly have much "nice" to say, so few things are actually deserved of such, but I do generally attempt to phrase it in a way that leads to an obvious improvement availablilty. Should one fail in that regard, then it should be possible to make up for such a deficit via other means.

Mar 8, 17 / Ari 11, 01 01:25 UTC

IMHO a "meet up" is certainly credible. I personally don't see what benefit this could bring - digital is faster, and generally easier. And cheaper. I like cheap, big fan of not spending money.

Dude!!!!!

People meet to actually see each other in person! That is part of the fun of the Internet!

Some of the coolest people I know I met from just chatting with them online. Hell, I met the women I would eventually marry online. (One at a time, of course. No polygamy here, too stressful.)

EDIT You are like a bristly old teddy bear. About as soft as a Brillo pad, but generally meaning well. :P

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Mar 8, 17 / Ari 11, 01 02:13 UTC

But you don't get a brillo pad becuase you want a soft and cuddly experience. You grab that becuase you want something clean. Using the right tool for the right job results in more appreciable output - trying to undo screws with a hammer just makes a mess.

The interwebs can allow you to see people - lots of the time without them realising - although I would personally suggest this is a massive waste of bandwidth that could be used for productive C&C. This is ofc just my personal opinion. Physical manifestation of people isn't entirely something I'd personally describe as a feature of the internet.

Jul 15, 17 / Vir 00, 01 16:09 UTC

Problems with a meet are simple. Logistics. The company I work for expects me to fly to the midlands once a quarter for a team meeting, same with my Irish Counterpart, and welsh counterparts. The only way to do something that would be central for everyone would be a meeting in the middle of the UK. Like Lancaster University, which is pretty much in the middle of the UK. Things like this often become London or Birmingham centric. Just my thoughts :)