Mar 10, 17 / Ari 13, 01 19:55 UTC

Re: Decree N2 by The Asgardia Head of Nation - Asgardian Calendar!  

theres a poll in the face about the calendar

Mar 10, 17 / Ari 13, 01 20:16 UTC

Yup, the poll is useless and by far not representative.

Mar 10, 17 / Ari 13, 01 21:22 UTC

In my humble opinion the calendar is somewhat rushed, when the satellites are ready in space could be made the calendar and see as orbit is around the earth and make the relevant calculations.

Mar 11, 17 / Ari 14, 01 11:41 UTC

It seems like total sutupidity. For now, in this time, on earth, its nonsense to have a different calender then the general one. Even "not accepting the metric system" is a stupidity.. however if we want to go for it and have a separate calendar with earth, why do we need to have 365 day 6 hours for a year, why we should need a leap year or use "january, fabruary ext."?? And for the last, WHY do we have a month that called "Asgard". Are we that much visionless to call a month as "Asgard" and cant find a name that can mean more to us? Beyond us, even Asgard myth have so many opportunities for that.. That action is so senseless i cant even find how to call it...

Afterall we could find an idea like " we will have 9 months -8 from the planets and 1 from the sun- to honor our solar system each have 30 days or whatever or 10 months with + our satalite as our first step to the space."even that is more acceptable. With the same idea we won't be on earth, we dont even need 24 hours a day. We can use whatever system is good for human health. But seperating Asgardia calender from the earth and yet using the same times(365day6hours) and same names are unbelievable...

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Mar 11, 17 / Ari 14, 01 14:05 UTC

I find it a good idea.

In the beginning we take carefully little steps.

The next generations can do faster and bigger steps.

Grtz, Dirk.

Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 00:40 UTC

Hi Dirk. Maybe you're the one who can explain why this is a good idea at this point in time. No-one else has been able to provide a compelling argument to date. So please tell me (and everyone else concerned by this proposal) exactly why this is a good idea?

Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 03:43 UTC

I've made a two-way Converter for the new calendar (from the Gregorian calendar in ISO standard, extended by me to be usable with any year) to be used as a reference tool. http://kate.wtf/asg

Because of The question of adding an extra day in a leap year will be addressed separately. (quote from Decree #2 https://asgardia.space/assets/doc/Decree002.pdf), I've included three different scenarios.

  1. Leap Day included between February and March (similar to ISO calendar),
  2. Leap Day included between June and Asgard (similar to original International Fixed Calendar),
  3. no Leap Day ever included.

All fields change values when one of them is changed. Leap Day and Year Day are included at the 29th position of the months they are coming after (February, June, December).

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Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 06:20 UTC

It was pleasant to me!

Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 08:31 UTC

So; the idea itself is great at idea stage, as we will need a different calendar not bound to the movement of Earth related to the Sun. If and when the future Asgardians will live in a space station in orbit, I see no sense having months with different day count, as the concept of "month" will change only to be relevant to amount of fixed amount of days and time. With no axle to rotate around and no set daylight cycle, we are going to define days only with time, and to make matters as simple as possible, a fixed amount of days in a month will be sufficient.

BUT, it is still moronic to start using this or any other kind of calendar during our time on Earth. It will only create confusion and disorder. And when we transfer ourselves to space, it should be revisited, as we (preferably) would still continue having contact to Earth, and different calendar would again create needless confusion.

Also, I still don't understand the need of 13th month (haven't read the wiki article about this kind of calendar yet).

TL;DR The concept is interesting and surely needed at some time in the distant future, but by no means necessary in a long time.

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Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 16:48 UTC

But if "detaching" from Earth orbit when measuring time - why move to Jupiters?

Wouldn't it make more sense to use base 10?

Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 18:38 UTC

Out of casual curiousity, where'd you get "moon colony" from?

Mar 12, 17 / Ari 15, 01 19:16 UTC

I would of suggested near Earth orbit, myself. It's closer and therefore easier to get to, and presents about the same amount of challenge. The only significant advantages I can see to a moon colony would be the ability to use the moon itself as a heatsink, which would only make the construction a couple of megatonnes lighter.

Mar 13, 17 / Ari 16, 01 00:51 UTC

Possibility - AFAIK there's no "exploration" occured on these, it's questionable if it'll be possible to seal against them - but it should be possible to build inside a hollow carved out inside. If it's structurally sensible to consider it. How would you intend on getting the regolith 3D printable? The about 13% of it that's iron would mean you'd need to process about 113 tonnes of material to get one tonne of iron, at best... I've not seen sillicon 3D printable unless previously bonded to polymers, and I don't think that's incredibly suitable. Don't think there's much else you've got up there, or in too low quantities to be useful.

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Mar 14, 17 / Ari 17, 01 12:22 UTC

Hello, my opinion on this calendar is negative. To pretend to be a lunar calendar, you have to take into account ... the Moon, so you have to adapt the days to your movement, putting, for example, the days of full moon as the first day of the month. It is a confusing and impractical calendar. I do not quite understand what its purpose is. I guess in space, time is not ruled by the Moon ....

Mar 14, 17 / Ari 17, 01 16:01 UTC

Where does it say it is trying (or "pretending") to be a lunar calendar? I see the similarities in 28 days and 13 months, but just because they are similar doesn't mean one is trying to be like the other.